5-11-25 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on X
Yesterday, I spent some time talking about players that I don’t feel the Pirates can afford to not trade this year, regardless of who is making the calls. You can read that here if you like.
I broke this out into two distinct categories because while I feel they have to act on those few I spoke to yesterday, today’s list is going to be more about guys they could potentially afford to wait until they make a change at GM.
This is my own personal wish. It certainly doesn’t mean that the Pirates will agree with either the guys I choose, or that Cherington shouldn’t get to play with things like this at this point.
And frankly, I’m ignoring all together the small potatoes type things they could do. Dealing a reliever on a one year deal for instance, like Borucki or Ferguson, go ahead, or don’t, we all know that’s not returning a haul, and it isn’t sending one out either. In other words, you don’t need me to write about those.
Let’s go, and as I did yesterday, I’ll explain why, what I think we could get in return, and anything else I can think of that pertains.
Mitch Keller
With a young staff forming, I love the idea of a seasoned veteran starter that was homegrown and chose to extend here as the leader of the staff.
Thing is, I don’t thing Keller has, or will become that.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good pitcher, a solid 3-4 starter, you know, exactly what I said he was when I wanted them to extend him. And Extending him was absolutely the right move, had they not, we’d likely have seen him dealt in 2024 with one more year of arb attached. Now, you’re selling a guy with 3 more full seasons of control. That’s an answer for someone for a few years, and it really should net you an answer of your own.
The years of control, and AAV around 15 Million for his contract make him extremely tradeable, and more than that, they make him attractive to teams who are in it, think they’re close to being in it in the next couple years or even just trying to prepare for losing someone comparable in stature from their own roster to the FA board.
The Pirates have to, well, not miss here.
In fact, they need to see his salary not as something to dump, but something that allows them to seek salary in return.
This could be a deal with a team like the Orioles who have young offensive talent, some of which is at the MLB level, some almost there. They don’t have a direct contract swap deal the Pirates could look for here, but they do have some guys like Ryan Mountcastle, Coby Mayo, Heston Kjerstad types, and honestly, I’d think Keller should probably get you 2 of those.
Two are unproven commodities who haven’t broken through, one is established but established as not being a huge star, just a competent bat. Offensive help for pitching help, a real honest to God baseball trade.
The Dodgers always seem stacked (gee I wonder why) but they also come up short on pitching as the season wears on, at least as it comes to their comfort level with what they have. They’ve got some prospects that wouldn’t be blocked anywhere else, like Daulton Rushing. We’ve already seen them have to deal off Michael Busch and Gavin Lux to keep adding veteran free agents, and you could see them have to do even a bit more of that. It could afford you an opportunity to really get something out of them and they certainly won’t care about eating his salary.
The Red Sox make a lot of sense too, with more and more young talent coming such as Roman Anthony, Marcello Mayer they might need to get creative to make room and while they’ve invested in their rotation, Keller would slot right in and solidify their unit.
The Pirates could eat some salary, but not as much as it would take to get Devers or Story, not without the Sox eating a decent amount themselves, but there could be a match here.
Anything that brings back MLB ready bats, is a good marriage for a Mitch Keller deal and to me, he is their biggest chip that I’m comfortable selling. Truth be told, if they’d developed bats I’d never suggest this, I’m just rolling the dice that I can use him to help balance the scales and praying that they finish the job of developing one of their young pitchers into a capable replacement.
Joey Bart
Joey has 2 more years of arbitration, and no, he’s not going to get super expensive. Problem is, he isn’t going to get super expensive because while Joey hits the ball, he isn’t a very good defensive catcher, which ultimately effects his value. For instance, if you’re a WAR believer, well, lets put it this way, Joey Bart has a 0.6 WAR for 2025 right now, accumulated in 31 games, Henry Davis, a far superior defender, and less so with the bat so far, has a 0.3 WAR, in only 12 games.
See where I’m going?
Now, Bart hits, but DH is kinda taken here and he isn’t capable of playing other positions. First base was tried way back in San Francisco and it was not a good experience for anyone involved. So much so it never progressed beyond a 2 week attempt in practice before it was entirely shut down.
I’m not saying they should trade him lightly, but a catcher who can hit, backed by two catchers who should hit and for sure defend batter sounds like movable to me.
I’m just not sure he brings back a “today” bat, and honestly, if he doesn’t I’m not sure you have room to do it. He is a stick, in a lineup that needs more, so I hesitate to move him unless…
…Henry or Endy really start to hit. If they do, this is a no brainer and you just get the best you can. I suppose if Andrew McCutchen were to announce plans to retire, you would have another reason to want to hold onto him, but to me, he’s on a track to lose his starting catcher gig regardless, you can’t build a team with a backbone of starting pitching and then make your starting catcher a defensive liability. Well, not if you want to win anyway.
Tricky one here, chalk full of conditions that need to evolve, and conditions as to how interested in moving him I’d be. But it has to be considered.
Jared Triolo
This isn’t a big trade. I mean, he has a lot of control, he’s cheap, he’s a hell of a fielder, Gold Glove winner and all and he has all the measurables that make him look like someone a smart team could find more offense in.
He’d get some interest, even if he’s intended to be a Kike Hernandez type who sits on the bench, fills in literally anywhere and that’s just if they can’t manage to get his bat turned into something.
You’re selling defensive excellence and versatility here. A Skeleton key for your defense and bench.
But the return is tricky. I can’t see you getting MLB players back, but you could score some decent prospects in return, and while I won’t claim they’re the same player or as defensively capable, the Pirates do have Malcom Nunez and Jack Brannigan on the way who can both play a very capable 3B. In other words, don’t keep this guy around just because Ke’Bryan Hayes’ back scares the hell out of you.
Ke’Bryan Hayes
I’m putting him here, but not because I think he’d get a lot of interest. He’s a hell of a glove, but nobody wants a starting 3B that hits like he does, especially one with a chronic back problem.
The league won’t forget just because he has a healthy season, and even if they did, they won’t forget what he brings to the plate.
This one would wind up feeling like a salary dump, and bluntly, he doesn’t make enough for it to be true. That said, the return could reflect that you’re asking a team to take on a commitment for the next 4 years with a guy who is sure to underwhelm at the plate and likely to not play half your games over that span.
I’m sure you could get some prospects but not anyone’s top guys. In fact, you’d likely get someone else’s project, maybe a couple of them.
And, this isn’t as simple as some World Series bound unit having their 3B go down to injury, because you’re not buying a rental that you get by with for a run, you’re buying someone you have to be ok with having around for 4 more years, and making a bit more than you’d like to pay a bench player, yes, even the Dodgers don’t like wasting money on their bench.
OK, you got me, I put this one on here because frankly, I can’t see the market. I’m of the belief we’ll have to at least get to the point he only has 1-2 years left on his deal.
Closing
There are some guys I’ve seen some of you mention, and let me rapid fire through them.
Oneil Cruz – No, he’s your best offensive weapon, he’s just figuring out CF and you simply won’t replace his production. Even as he enters arbitration next year, this is not a guy this team should be considering dealing at this stage.
Bryan Reynolds – No, he’s off to a terrible start, but guys, he almost always is until it warms up, and when he’s going, his switch hitting bat is crucial. Again, they won’t replace his production.
Andrew McCutchen – No. Not only was it an understanding when he signed here that he wouldn’t be dealt, that understanding is with the owner, not the GM. Andrew is here until they decide he has nothing left to give or he does. Period. He’s not going to wake up in July and want to suddenly go play for a playoff team. To think that is to not understand why he keeps coming back for 5 million when he could get 6-8 on the market.
Jack Suwinski – Sure, but to me, this is the type of guy you toss into a deal when you are eating salary. This isn’t going to happen, but let’s just pretend for some reason the Twins want to dump a contract like Carlos Correa or Byron Buxton, well, the Pirates would probably want to offset that risk by offering back some “issues” of their own that look like shots at help. Players like Jack or Bae, well, their failure to launch makes them toss in types, to sweeten a deal or make it look more palatable to a fan base. So you’d get Buxton and send back say Braxton Ashcraft, Jack Suwinski and maybe a Jared Triolo type. One real prospect, one MLB player who can at least take a 26 man spot and play good defense and one AAAA looking guy who you can sell as “not getting a chance”. Thin market to say the least.
Look, when you’re a losing team, you don’t get to cringe about moving on from just about anyone.
That said, in general, the goal here needs to be to add offensive talent.
Not subtract it. And for those of you thinking you can trade Skenes, well, you’d never recoup value, it’s WAY too early for one thing. Nobody has a prospect package they’d offer that comes close, and frankly this is probably the chief reason to not consider it, his mere existence is the only reason we’re pretending it’s time to win anyway. Trade him away and you’re left with a handful of awesome looking risks. I’ll just keep the ace here and wait for the river.
They have prospect depth on the mound, they can deal some of it, but the only path the pirates development system has provided to reach “special” is if this pitching staff becomes Skenes, Barco, Chandler, Jones, Harrington, Keller, or whomever but you get what I mean, if this is 1992 Braves on the hill, they have a chance here even if the offense never becomes exceptional. And no, I don’t mean in 2025, I mean in the immediate 3-4 season stretch here.
If they can move some of this, like Keller, or one of the prospects should they prefer to keep their signed anchor, and have it return actual MLB bats, they have a chance.
If Spencer Horwitz winds up being an MLB bat, which he’s shown signs of in Toronto, even if it’s only against righties, and it cost them one starter, I’m ok with that. And frankly, I think I and you, need to be ok with it again.
My issue is I just can’t feel good about Cherington doing it. I just have not liked his eye for offensive talent and bluntly, that’s just about the only thing left to do. Add offense.