‘Twas the day before Christmas and all through PNC Park, not a creature was stirring especially without Kyle Stark. Cleats and gloves were hung in their lockers with care, in hopes that Opening Day soon would be there.
The Pirates Fans were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of transactions danced in their heads.
And Ben Cherington from the Front Office and I in my Bucs In The Basement Cap had just settled down for an off-season chat.
When up on the Rotunda there arose such a clatter, that I sprang from my seat behind home plate to see what was the matter.
Out to the left field bleachers I flew like a flash, waved the Jolly Roger, had one too many IC Lights and fell with a crash!
The gleam from the skyline illuminated the seats, Where I found some signed Pirates Bobbleheads that Joe Klimchak and the Bucco Brigade left at my feet!
When what to my glazed eyes should appear, but “Billionaire” Bob and 8 Top Prospects that are near!
I rattled my brain with ETA’s quite lively and quick, that I knew in that moment it must be another one of his tricks!
More rapid than Grasshoppers, Marauders, Curves and Indians coursers they came, he snickered and shouted and called them by name! Come Hayes! Come Cruz! Come Pegeuro and Gonzales! Come Priester! Come Swaggerty! Come Mason Martin and Cal Mitchell!
Across the Clemente Bridge, to the top of the Clemente Wall! Now smash away and make a splash away! And flash away all!
When they meet with an obstacle, the projections did fly! Until they have forecasts that are all sky high! With a future full of championship runs from Nutting to you! I thought to myself, “This must be a dream, it just can’t be true!”
And then in twinkling I heard from PA system, a voice that I knew right away was a Cannonball Comin’!
As I drew in my head and was turning around, the voice that I heard was the one and only Greg Brown!
He called each play with excitement in spite of the score, he left us all on the edge of our seats and constantly wanting more!
I saw Shelton on the top steps of the dugout giving his signals! To batters and runners, to pitchers and even the catcher! His hands they moved quickly! From the brim of his hat then to belt and chin, then finally his shoulder!
Bell swung away fast and as quick as a breeze, crushing the ball to the Allegheny with the greatest of ease! With a bat flip and a smile rounded the bases! We got to their pitcher and finally chased him! The Pirates, their aces and bullpen came through! Sitting down opposing hitters as they regularly swung right out of their shoes! On to top of the 9th Oscar Marin walked to the mound! He told Baby Thor to bring the hammer down! All the Pirates Fans stood as the game would soon be over! The chanted and cheered in support of their closer! He gave away K-struts as part of his routine! With the final swing of the game, it was quickly strike three! I heard Brownie claim as he came into sight!
Raise The Jolly Roger to all on this Zambelli Fireworks night!
Happy Pirates Festivus!
For many of you the airing of grievances is a 365 day celebration when it comes to the Pirates, but today I’m going to have a little fun as I give you my top ten grievances for the Buccos because I’ve got ’em, and you’re gonna listen!
10. These Guys Can’t Draft!
Of all the things that drive me nuts about the Pirates this one really sticks in my craw. If there is one benefit that should come from sucking out loud for the majority of four decades, one would think that would be some absolute homeruns in the draft.
Somebody should tell them you are allowed to hit on a player who isn’t a first rounder too. It’s obviously too early to say Ben Cherington is better or worse but I’m over it.
9. Josh Bell
Josh Bell ticks me off! Look at the guy, he’s built like a brick shi* house and has shown the ability to hit the ball over the fence with a flick of the wrists, SO WHY CAN”T HE JUST DO IT? Do you know how bad I’d love to be talking about Boras screwing us out of keeping him rather than hoping he does well enough to get traded?
8. Replay Review
I hate replay review. I hate how it slows down the game. I hate how it’s become such a granular thing broken down like the Zepruder film to catch a guy sliding a quarter inch too far. But what I hate most about replay, it wasn’t around in 1992 to call that sumbitch Sid Bream out!
7. People Who “Don’t Care Anymore” Yet Always Comment Without Reading
You know who you are, but you probably aren’t reading this. You’ll know who it is too because it will obviously say something about Nutting (more on him later)
6. Parody in Baseball
The funny thing is I actively hate something that doesn’t exist. Selfishly I want the Pirates to win but there are 20 other markets I’d happily watch win it all just to see something different. When the Dodgers won last season I wanted to wretch while the announcers acted like they overcame something to win.
5. Losing the West Virginia Black Bears
I loved going to see all those recent draft picks playing so close to home and the community really loved having them too. I’m grateful to still have Altoona but this post is about complaining. Sincerely though, I’ve made connections and memories that will last a lifetime and I’ll really miss it.
4. Never Saying Rebuild
It’s just a word and the damage it does to the psyche of the fan base is palpable. I understand the gamesmanship of not stating your intentions out loud but nobody is fooled except maybe the few fans who think you might just sign that top end starting pitcher this year.
3. 1979
When you complain that you haven’t seen a championship since 1979 keep in mind some of us have never seen a championship period.
2. Baseball Has Changed
I always say if you don’t like the way baseball is being played wait a couple years and it’ll change. This version of baseball with all the shifts, no running game, openers, strikeouts, walks or homeruns isn’t the best version of this game though.
I really hope someone breaks the mold and goes old school on baseball, and wins doing it, because if nothing else MLB is a copycat league.
1. Bob Nutting
Everything about him. Everything you think about him. Just him. If they ever do win there is zero chance anyone thinks anything but it was in spite of him. I don’t want to care about the owner anymore yet there is hardly a subject I can write about in which I don’t have to put some kind of qualifier for what Nutting will and won’t do.
It’d be nice if I could propose an idea without having to consider whether it’s possible with Nutting.
Hey everyone, have a very Merry Christmas and if you have some more grievances I’m certainly here to listen.
A Glimpse Into The Future Of The Pittsburgh Pirates
The year is 2023 and it’s opening day for Major League Baseball for the Pittsburgh Pirates at PNC Park. Ke’Bryan Hayes is gearing up to take a run at winning his third Gold Glove and Silver Slugger in a row, as Liover Pegeuro and Nick Gonzalez field grounders from 1st Baseman Mason Martin. In the outfield Bryan Reynolds, Travis Swaggerty and Oneil Cruz are playing catch, while waving at the fans in the packed bleachers. On the mound the phenom Kumar Rocker is effortlessly throwing into the mid and upper 90’s and is returned crisply out of the glove of Francisco Alvarez, who was acquired a few years earlier in the Adam Frazier deal. Down in the dugout, designated hitter Rodolfo Castro grips onto his newly minted Louisville Slugger, while trying on his shiny batting helmet with the Pirates P proudly positioned in the middle. Prior to the season the Young Bucs, as they are collectively called, have been named as one of the up and coming teams in the league and are primed to make a run at the NL Central Division Crown. This is the goal, which is becoming somewhat of an expectation, that some Pirates Fans have set General Manager Ben Cherington and his new regime. Others have taken it on step further and just assume that this is what is going to happen.
Could this scenario play out in real life? Yes, although everything would have to go exactly according to plan. Should it be the expectation? Maybe, but I see it more as something to hope for. Should it be an assumption? Absolutely not, because it leaves no room for any circumstance outside of each prospect at every position reaching there full projection; which even in the best run organizations rarely comes to fruition.
These assumptions, and expectations to a certain degree, lead fans to make statements about already having enough middle infield prospects or not acquiring a centerfielder or even outfield depth because Pegeuro, Gonzalez, Swaggerty and Cruz already have those positions filled. Could they? Possibly, but it is not even close to being guaranteed. There are too many factors that could affect a prospects development, not including injuries, to believe that each and everyone of these players futures are promised.
There have been countless studies done on the success rate of prospects in both the top 100 in all of MLB, that can be utilized to predict outcomes within the Top 30 prospects on each individual team as well. Broken down it’s as simple as the fact that approximately 70% of top prospects are not successful, as in being at or above a 2.0 WAR; which is the standard set for what constitutes an every day player in Major League Baseball. The overwhelming majority of players on this lists will be described as busts if and when they do do eventually reach the majors. Yet, somehow, I am supposed to believe that the Pirates are somehow immune to what amounts to almost 30 years of research at this point.
Along with the eight current players within the Pittsburgh Pirates Organization that I already mentioned, I could safely count at least six other sure-fire prospects that are destined for greatness according to some. This would mean that thirteen (Reynold’s is no longer a prospect) are destined for greatness, along with two players the team has yet to acquire and may not actually do so. Therefore, we can safely say that would be between 40-45% current above average Major League Players, 2.0 WAR or higher, currently in the system.
If you are counting on them being All-Stars the number drops to more like 16 to 17 percent, due to the 4.5 WAR cutoff for superior careers. Also if you want to differentiate between pitchers and position players, the rate of busts among pitchers is actually higher. Although, I don’t think this is necessary as I have already clearly made my point.
The reason(s) you acquire more players at each position, is so that you have a backup or two, and hopefully more, if your original plan does not work out. Also you have actual prospects and/or Major League Players who have genuine trade value when the time comes to add a player to your roster or restock the farm systems for future windows of opportunity; and in the best case scenario, to keep the current one open. You want guys competing for every position at every level of the organization, not one guy at each that you hope works out.
As a self proclaimed Prospect Junkie and supporter of all things both Minor and Major League Baseball, I wholeheartedly wish for the success of every player in the Pittsburgh Pirates Organization, while keeping my expectations realistic and making absolutely no assumptions along the way; because as my 8th Grade Science Teacher Mr. Curci always said, “Never assume anything!”.
Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss
When I first met Craig my co-editor we must have talked baseball for an hour and we both probably mentioned the owner a grand total of never.
I take that back, I think we mentioned him once when I joked that if I were Bob Nutting I’d hire an actor to be the new owner. I mean if they ever win its not like he’ll be looked at as the reason they got it done anyway.
Clearly this wouldn’t work as eventually people would discover the ruse. But it would be just as effective as getting a new one.
Mark Cuban, Mario Lemieux, Ron Burkle, everyone has their favorite new owner and if anything I’d say all three of those have experience helping to usher in and enjoying the benefits of a salary cap.
I get it, Bob sucks and I’m not going to pretend he does all he can but I will say a little better is about all you could hope for. Baseball’s real problem and for that matter the Pirates is being the only major professional sport that doesn’t have a salary cap. That’s the real fight.
One that could very well be on the table when the CBA negotiations start. Rob Manfred already spoke out loud some sacred cow phraseology that has been avoided like the plague.
As you actively watch Kansas City run roughshod through the NFL and markets like the New York Islanders who can barely establish a home compete at the highest level of the sport, keep in mind none of that happens without the cap.
It’s no guarantee either, look at the Jets for God’s sake. In fact what the Pirates have done worst over the years would actually be highlighted, drafting and development. For instance, the Dodgers would still be pretty damn good, and the Orioles would still stink.
I think that’s the biggest reason I’m able to see past the ownership, because I can honestly say they wouldn’t be much better, they’d just spend more.
Doesn’t mean I’m happy. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t replace him happily, after all if the fish truly stinks from the head there is no way to avoid realizing he is ultimately responsible for the poor execution.
What the cap does most is make it possible for a team that generates less revenue to retain players, not necessarily acquire them. Sure you’d have some Tom Brady like moves where someone who was the franchise in one location tries for one last ride somewhere else but for the most part good players would be more likely to stay where they were drafted.
If you think back about the Pirates, and let’s stick to fairly recent history, I can’t say I see more than 2 or 3 players I’d move heaven and earth to keep. Trades would still happen to try to rebuild, look at the Dolphins.
Really what it means more than anything is every team has an even playing field. It’s not your market size, your owner’s willingness to spend, no it’s just how well do you run an organization.
That’s part of what makes all the other pro sports fun to watch. Now, the NBA has largely been taken over by wherever Lebron plays or the onset of super teams where players come together to take less and make a championship run but when you only play 5 guys at a time things like that become more possible.
In the NFL it’s a franchise QB who carries the weight. Have one and you have a chance, don’t and you might as well have nothing else. The NHL probably has the best cap but even in that case keep in mind Sid and Geno wouldn’t still be in Pittsburgh if they didn’t personally decide to take less than they could to try to win. I guess that’s another way an owner can have an impact.
It comes with benefits for the players too, service time manipulation is one thing that would have to go the way of the dodo and larger money contracts would have to come earlier in a career. Could even lead to expanded rosters.
The bottom line, MLB needs a cap, and true revenue sharing to really bring back the consistent ability to compete. Oh, I almost forgot, a floor always comes with a cap and no, not even Bob Nutting would cheat the system because the penalties are crippling.
The players will never accept it! I can hear some of you screaming it as I type. Yeah, that was said for each and every other league who’s gotten it done. The big markets won’t ever go for it! Yeah, again, the same thing was said, but here we are.
The breaking point tends to be when revenue sharing becomes lopsided drastically, and we’re getting there.
I’m not saying they’ll finally make it happen in this CBA negotiation, but I will say the climate is right and if nothing else, they’ll move closer to it. Building in poison pills that lead more to get on board is probably in the cards.
If a cap comes in there will be little to blame for ineptitude beyond running the franchise poorly, and for growing a sport there is little more important than truly believing your team has a shot no matter the market size.
Keep calling for the owner’s head, I truly don’t care, but at least realize a new owner might dip into their person wealth for a moment but they won’t do it indefinitely. Rich people don’t get rich by finding ways to lose money.
Opening Day Lineup For The Pirates In 2021
With Derek Shelton giving a little bit of insight into his thought process concerning multiple players during his most recent media session, in lieu of his regular Winter Meeting availability, the powers that be have taken to interpreting exactly what this could mean for the Pirates as a whole, as well as some of its individual players. It’s only the middle of December, mind you, so of course he is only working with a pencil at the moment because you know, pencils have erasers. However, that won’t stop passionate Pittsburgh Pirates Fans already being up in arms.
The Pirates first game of consequence is currently scheduled to take place at Wrigley Field against the Chicago Cubs on Thursday April 1, 2021; although there has already been some talk about that being pushed back, for obvious reasons. As it presently stands Pittsburgh’s 40-man is full with a lot of decisions and/or moves left to be made via trades, assignments to AAA, free agent acquisitions, minor league contracts and potential DFA’s. Nevertheless for now, Shelton needed to answer some questions and give some insight as to how the roster might shake out.
Unfortunately for Pirates Fans, during this interview, they heard the news that shouldn’t really be a shock to anyone at this point; Polanco is penciled in to play right field. I get the sentiment of not wanting a player who struck out 37.4 % of the time last year and is currently hitting .200 in the Dominican Winter League to be starter no matter what to begin the year. However, there are only two choices; you let him play and hope that you get something in return or you have him ride the pine and have no shot of getting anything for him. It’s far from ideal, but it’s only for one more year, or less if things go right.
The next piece of information was Ke’Bryan Hayes at third, which is another revelation that shouldn’t surprise anyone. Still, I have my own little take on this situation, part of which is far from popular, while being extremely unlikely as well due to his performance over the last month of 2020 along with not wanting to upset an already despondent fan base.
Ke’Bryan Hayes, the man without a heartbeat, has not yet exceeded the service requirements to make him a free agent after the 2026 season. This means Ben Cherington has the power to manipulate his service time with the goal of maintaining an extra year of control of the budding superstar. This can be avoided by either signing him to an contract, buying out his arbitration years plus one or more, which is something I have previously suggested , or simply kicking the can down the road and dealing with it later on when it comes to arbitration or an extension. It would be an extremely unpopular decision to start a player such as Hayes in AAA for service manipulation, but it is something organizations that the Pirates could be emulating would do without giving it a second thought. And no I am not just talking about the A’s and Rays.
The next two players mentioned are the simplest and most straightforward, to a degree, in the forms of starting catcher Jacob Stalling and outfielder Bryan Reynolds. Like it or not, and I happen to, Stallings is your starting catcher for at least one more year. The Reynolds in the outfield comment leads to a little more unpacking. Sure we know he will be out there, but will it be left or center? For Shelton the answer may not be all that complicated if Adam Frazier and to a lesser degree Colin Moran (Josh Bell) are still around, as one of them could play left, and the other can play second; both positions suggested by Shelton for Frazier, who is penciled in at second. This more than likely makes Reynolds your starting centerfielder; the position he seemingly wants to, and can play, although I am not sure what that means for shortstop as it is one of the middle infield spots that is up in the air. Alas, this isn’t the only one, because if Moran and Bell are both there come opening day, and there is no DH, Shelton will have another problem.
The Bell/Moran Conundrum is one I tackled before , which breakdown as Bell at first base on opening day if there is no DH; with my preferred player, Moran, left floating around the infield and outfield.
Needless to say there is a lot that can happen between now and then, even so the Pirates, Shelton and Cherington will eventually have to make some tough decisions. For what it’s worth, with the players who are currently here, my starting lineup in no particular batting order would be; Moran at 1st, Frazier at 2nd, Gonzalez at SS, Evans at 3B, Reynolds in LF, Alford in CF, Polanco in RF and Stallings at C.
It’s obviously not my call, but I would manipulate Hayes service time, which is easy for me to say when it is not my decision to make. I am also starting Tucker in AAA, at either SS or in the outfield full time, although what really matters is his bat. As far as the choices for positions are concerned, they would come together a lot easier if I could trust Newman to field at SS, since I would like to get him on the field and could easily slide Gonzalez over to 3B or keep Evans there if he wins the job.
Now, I don’t think things will necessarily work themselves out in this fashion and I hope some moves are made to clear space; though as of this moment the roster remains full and before we know it Shelton will have to start using pen instead of the less permanent pencil.
Pirates Revisionist History Doesn’t Help Anyone
Something I’ve learned as I’ve covered the Pirates is that fans have a ton of different ways they see events that have taken place.
I used to believe most of these differences were generational, I mean some of you have seen a couple championships then watched the game change. There’s bitterness because ownership has sucked for decades now and the only real common denominator has been that they either didn’t have money or wouldn’t spend it if they did.
At this point though, I’ve come to realize it’s more about human nature than it is this fan base alone.
Back in 1992, I was 15 years old. The Pirates were coming off three straight years of being top contenders for the World Series, and they quite possibly had the best player in the game Barry Bonds. I remember hearing how ridiculous his salary demands were, how no one player was worth that kind of money. After all it was his lollipop arm that led to them losing the playoff series against the Braves anyway.
I was a kid, I took what was said at face value. The media helped paint him as a bad guy, helped make sure everyone knew how foolish it was to give that kind of payday to any one player. Besides, we had this superstar Jeff King coming up anyway, so we’d be fine. Largely, most of the people covering the team simply knew the Pirates couldn’t sign him and it used to be much more normal for media to help the local clubs look better.
We all know what that next season brought, and what it started. Baseball changed, but it didn’t overnight turn into drastic have versus have not situation we see today. That took time.
The Pirates have had exactly two number one picks really turn into transformative figures in the stretch of time since Barry leaving. Andrew McCuthen and Gerrit Cole.
There is quite possibly no more damning a stat related to this franchise than that. This is a team that has swung and missed on their number one pick more than you can afford while remaining competitive.
It’s far too early to predict that Ben Cherington is better at it yet, all we have to go on is where his latest selections fall in the Pirates Prospect rankings and the reality of baseball is we won’t really know for 4 or 5 years.
I started this piece looking at the obvious, the number one picks. Top picks fail all the time, you know that because it was a favorite pastime of Mr. Huntington to go out and collect former first round selections off the waiver wire by way of trying to help his own meager system out. As usual Neal was always looking in the wrong direction while the action happened behind him when it comes to developing the fuel for his furnace.
Over time stories get passed down and events get boiled down to bullet points. For instance, we forget that Huntington did a very good job of building and strategically bringing in talent to build the teams that competed for the NL Central title in the middle of the last decade.
Many people remember that run crumbling as an example of Bob Nutting forcing payroll reductions on Neal, but really it pointed at another deficiency that we’re still living with today, his system.
They had nothing coming. I still remember a week of hype that the Pirates number one pick Brad Lincoln was going to make his debut and he was going to face Steven Strasburg, a battle of number one picks. A peek into the future as these two would be battling each other for years to come.
Didn’t really work out that way did it?
All of this is exactly why we are where we are today. You can look at system rankings and pretend everything is ok, but those rankings don’t tell you how that talent will translate to MLB. Those rankings don’t tell you how far away from MLB they are, not by themselves anyway.
I can make a really good looking team in 2023 but that’s the kind of thinking that leads to the conundrum they’ve created.
Sure they’ll keep drafting and developing, bringing in more talent but if they stop bringing it in via trades prematurely it won’t create the overflow of depth situation they’re looking for. If they choose to sit back and believe everyone in their system will suffer no injuries, have no setbacks, play up to their pedigree and wake up in 2023 ready to compete and burnish the logo, there simply won’t be enough.
A team like Pittsburgh needs MLB stocked and a host of players begging to make the leap from AAA. I’ll go so far as to say if the Pirates are built right, the general fanbase has no idea who Quinn Priester is right now. I mean we look at High A players as a hope for a chance someday, and while some of us will certainly still look to and talk about prospects of that level but the focus will shift to the current club and the next level for depth.
That’s been the plan, it remains the plan, the only thing that’s changed is who oversees it.
It doesn’t, and won’t feel good. Even while they’ve lost we’ve come to really love some of these players. Many still have untapped potential, at least we hope they do, but rest assured before this is where Cherington is taking it, most of them won’t be Pirates.
Some of you will have to look away while this is happening, in your heart you know it’s a necessary purge, but that doesn’t mean you have to like watching it and on top of that there’s always a chance he isn’t going to make all the right moves.
That’s why, more than any reason, Cherington needs to stack the deck. He can’t say, oh I have Mason Martin, first base is set. Before his vision comes to fruition we’ll be talking about a multitude of options at most positions, not one we pluck from A ball and plop in a target ETA season.
Again, it’s not the same game it used to be and while I suppose Ben believes Bob Nutting will give him the money he’s not spending now to sew up holes later, I don’t. And building the system properly hedges the bet.
Trading players now for prospects doesn’t make the Pirates the AAA for the rest of baseball, it makes the Pirates AAA exactly what it’s supposed to be, the fuel that fires the engine.
To Trade Or Not To Trade? That Is NOT The Question For The Pirates
As the situation currently stands the MLB Hot Stove has been more of a slow simmer rather than the rolling boil we have become accustomed to in previous years. As Chris pointed out in the most recent episode of Bucs In The Basement, this is the first time in around 20 years that a free agent in the top 20 of MLB Trade Rumors list has not been signed through this period of the off-season, following the Winter Meetings. And over the past few days, after recording on Monday evening, nothing has really changed. Across the landscape lower tier free agents continue to sign and minor trade moves occur with less than notable pieces exchanging hands. Sure people will try to point to the Lance Lynn Trade to the White Sox as a major move that has taken place; but even if I give you that one, which I am not sure I would, it is the glaring exception and not rule.
With the way things are going this could open up a litany of opportunities for General Manager Ben Cherington and the Pittsburgh Pirates to take advantage of if he starts to ask and then ultimately answer the right questions. Instead of asking if a player should or should not be traded, they need to be figuring out when to trade, in an attempt to maximize value, and who the most likely trade partners. In previous years the how to trade players by drumming up interest to make them more appealing than the available free agents could also come into play, and it still could. I just don’t see it as being as much of a challenge as it has been prior to the current off-season.
Sure you could point to the rumors swirling surrounding teams being interested in signing available free agents, such as Tomoyuki Sugano of the NPB Yomiuri Giants, Julio Teheran, Marcus Semien, Liam Hendricks, Justin Turner, Corey Kluber, Jake Odorizzi and Rich Hill; however at this point that is all they are, rumors. How much interest have you seen in Trevor Bauer or JT Realmuto that wasn’t drummed up by themselves of their agents. It is clearly a different market where the signing of Anthony DeSclafani by the Giants at $6 million for one year, Mike Zunino staying with the Rays for $3 million guaranteed and rather inconsequential trades between the Rangers and Reds or Mariners become headlines for days at a time because there is nothing else to report.
So how do Cherington and the Pirates make the decision on when to trade and who the most likely trade partners could be?; while remembering that Ke’Bryan Hayes and maybe a couple of other players are the only ones not on the table. Well, first of all there is no time like the present. I understand that many Pirates are possibly at the lowest trade values of their respective career, but I will only consider taking them off the block if you can guarantee me their value won’t decrease between now and the next trade deadline. Also, there are lower ranked farm systems, but there are no systems that are completely devoid of talent. I get that most people are targeting top 10 organizational prospects from loaded systems or those that are in the top 100 in all of MLB, and I can’t blame them. Just remember who Starling Marte got the Pirates a year ago; two prospects that many had never heard of prior to the deal, from a somewhat rejuvenated system thanks to the Goldschmidt and Grienke trades, who were not in the overall top 100 and only one of whom was in his own teams top 10. Yet somehow I am supposed to believe that every or any Pirates current trade chip is worth more.
Let me put it this way; if any team offers you a top 100 prospect for almost any Pirates player, and especially the ones that have been mentioned by myself and others, you take it and run. If not you listen and at least try to work out a deal. This is not saying that Cherington has to or should eventually make each and every deal, but he has to at the very least listen; seeing as I can’t think of too many untouchables that exist on a team that picked 7th in the MLB Draft this year and is set to pick #1 overall in the next.
Five Pirates Thoughts at Five 12-17-20
Howdy everyone! Wanted to get some more thoughts out there today as we head into the last weekend before the Big Day! MLB in general has been quiet, but that doesn’t mean there is nothing to talk about. As always, reach out on any platform Craig and I would love to get your take.
1. Is January the New December?
I saw this proposed by some baseball talking heads the other day. Putting forward the thought that baseball has simply shifted the flurry of activity from December around the Winter Meetings to January. My first thought is, well yeah that could be the case but it also could very well be on MLB for leaving so many questions out there. Teams as of right now don’t know if they’ll be utilizing a DH, how many roster spots they’ll have to fill, hell they don’t even know how many games they’re going to play yet.
Sure, we hear they’re planning like everything will be normal but here’s the thing, it isn’t normal. If I’m honest, I think we’ll be talking, or at least hear talking about, collusion before this season starts.
2. The Bigger the Name, the Worse Timing You Have
It’s early, I could see every one of the top free agents signing big money contracts, but I also think some of them will be forced to take 1 year deals with options. There has never been a worse time to reach free agency because even if the teams are lying about losing as much money as they claim it’s not going to prevent them from acting that way.
I wrote this some time ago but the Pirates could play this to their advantage and before you go off whining about Bob at least give this a moment and think about it.
Say the Pirates dole out one of those bigger deals for one year and an option to someone like Joc Pederson. Let’s give him 12 Million, I think he’ll land somewhere near there, and lets give him an option year. He starts off good and hits say 15 bombs in the first three months. Trade bait right? Well some will still not want to pay his remaining salary, maybe the Bucs could essentially pay half of it for a really good prospect in return.
If you’re in the Pirates position you can’t afford to miss a trick when it comes to acquiring talent and this slow market might present one.
Another way this could all work out is players might see they aren’t going to get their perceived fair market value and instead chase a championship figuring things will get right after the new CBA. In other words if I can get 7 million to play for a year in Pittsburgh or 4 to be a bench piece in LA, I might consider it.
It also means, if Ben Cherington was serious, don’t rule out a Chris Archer still being in play for a return to Pittsburgh. He’s going to sign a reasonable deal somewhere, might as well be here.
3. Don’t Sleep on the Lost Year of MiLB
This really mattered, and it really happened. We have no idea how it will effect players and it’s foolish to assume everyone will just start where they left off.
We’ve talked to people intimately involved with the training site in Altoona, we’ve spoken to people involved with the Marlins version. I’ve touched base with the Brewers organization and each one of them detailed the issues with getting players real baseball in those sites.
In other words, if your favorite player has only played High A but was at the site, please don’t assume he’s ready to skip AA. I’ve been told by someone who doesn’t wish to go on record that it was less about progression than holding the line. They essentially wanted to prevent backsliding or in some cases didn’t want a fresh draft pick to just sit for a year waiting.
Take this how you want to, I know how I personally feel about unnamed sources, but at least practice some caution as you predict Mason Martin making the jump from High A to MLB for a cup of coffee this season.
4. The Pirates Don’t Benefit from Rushing Prospects
I swear it’s a different point, but I’ll use the same example. Mason Martin is a quality power prospect and his bat is really exciting. That said people who think the Pirates might manipulate service time with Ke’Bryan Hayes to start 2021 (they won’t) seem to think they’ll move mountains to get Martin ready for the show. (they won’t)
Why would they want to rush a prospect to MLB? The window is nowhere near opening so why would they want to start the clock running on someone if it’s a stretch? In Martin’s case they already have plenty of first basemen and even if they trade one or two they still have Will Craig who they obviously don’t care about losing but would be a perfectly acceptable plug.
It might be different if it looked like things were coming together for next year, but they aren’t. Be patient for the system to work.
5. Trades are Coming
I’ve never been more convinced that the Pirates are going to make some trades and no I don’t have any fresh rumors for you. The free agent market is slow and I told you why I thought so earlier. This is going to prompt teams to look for alternate methods to patch holes. Collectively the Pirates are not a good team, but individually they have some really nice pieces that can solve problems for other teams.
It’s not going to taste good but like medicine it rarely does.
I’ve heard from several fans who think the Pirates should hold their cards that the NL Central is going to be down in 2021 and they might be right, but it’s far to early to guess. It sure looks that way right now I’ll go with you there but two big things. It won’t be down enough for the Pirates to hold firm and go for it, and we are nowhere near seeing what any of these teams consider their finished product.
Chasing fools gold will never make you rich.
Does Derek Shelton Need A Defined Closer?
Over the past few days my eyes and ears have been bombarded with discussions about the Pirates Closer for the 2021 season, and in some of instances the Closer of the Future. It all began on Sunday when the guys over at the North Shore Nine were having a Q&A with Matt Gajtka from Pittsburgh Sports Live. During the course of the conversation he unknowingly asked if Keone Kela was still on the team and followed it up with a statement about the bullpen not being something he focuses on at the present time. I am in agreement with Matt here, because the Pirates bullpen is near the bottom of the list of concerns I have for the ball club. Then on Monday I tuned into Dejan Kovacevic’s Pirates Daily Shot , which is something I suggest you all should do on a regular basis, only to hear about the Pirates Closer situation again.
After that I sat down for a dose of Pirates articles and blogs from beat reporters and amateurs alike. Yes, I read and listen to information other than my own. Almost immediately, staring me straight in the face was a post that asked me oWho Is The Pirates Closer Of The Future? over at the Bucco Cove. I couldn’t escape it. The next day I tuned into Derek Shelton’s media session media, only to hear DK ask Shelton about the Closer for 2021. I respect DK, I honestly do. If you don’t believe me go check out the accolades I bestowed upon him after a recent article. It’s nothing personal against anyone, I just couldn’t understand the obsession.
Then today came, and I finally reached my breaking point. As I listened to DK’s Daily Shot of Pirates, with the main topic being the exploration of Jameson Taillon’s potential role as a closer, my mind drifted back to an article that I wrote a little less than a year ago about the need for a Pirates, or any other team for that matter, to have a closer. Now some may say my opinion on the matter is a little jaded because of this previous piece, however, it is based on a decent amount of research on the topic and the usage of closers for all teams around Major League Baseball.
Before we get into the numbers, I always like to remind people that the “save” and the “closer” are completely made up statistics and/or terms. The designation of closer in the bullpen was not widely used until the early 1990’s and the idea of a save was developed in 1959 by a young writer named Jerome Holtzman, who laid out the rules for exactly what constituted one. To Holtzman a save was awarded to a pitcher if his team wins and he is not the winner of the contest and that he faced the tying or go ahead run. The only two exceptions were if the pitcher came into the final inning with a two-run lead and pitched a perfect inning or if he comes in with a three run lead and pitches two or more innings, finishes the game and does not give up the lead. Major League Baseball and other writers made adjustments to Holtzman’s requirements/guidelines over the next 15 years or so until the official definition of a save was set in 1975. The save rule as it stands today requires that the pitcher has to enter the game with the tying or go ahead run on the bases, at the plate or in the on deck circle and that when the pitcher comes into the game his team is ahead by 3 or fewer runs and pitches at least one inning. If a pitcher pitches at least three innings and does not qualify for the win, he can also be awarded the save. A central requirement for a save is that the pitcher must finish the game, so only one pitcher can earn a save.
I realize this got us nowhere near determining whether or not a closer is needed by the Pirates (or anyone else), but I feel it was a necessary sidebar to give everyone some perspective of the origins of the save and the closer position.
At this point in time I dove into the numbers and as a numbers guy it should be no surprise to anyone that I opened up FanGraphs and Baseball Reference, amongst other sites in an attempt to answer the question in the most educated way possible. I also looked back on the research I performed while writing my previous article, which focused a lot on the outcomes of the 2018 and 2019 seasons. During those years there was a split in philosophy as to how the closer position should be utilized among the most successful teams of the time. The St. Louis Cardinals used 3 different relievers in the closer role; Carlos Martinez (48 Games, 24 saves, 3 holds and 3 blown saves), Jordan Hicks (29 Games, 14 saves, 3 holds and 1 blown Save) and Andrew Miller (73 Games, 6 saves, 28 holds and 5 blown saves). The Yankees leaned on Aroldis Chapman (60 Games, 37 saves and 5 blown saves) for the overwhelming majority of their team’s saves. The Twins operated a bit of a time share between Taylor Rogers (60 Games, 30 saves, 10 holds and 6 blown saves) and Blake Porter (37 Games, 10 saves, 9 holds and 1 blown Save). The Brewers called on Josh Hader (61 Games, 37 saves, 6 holds and 7 blown saves) more often than not, in spite of some struggles. And finally, the Rays used a closer by committee approach that involving 11 different pitchers. Emilio Pagan (20 saves, 7 holds and 8 blown saves), Diego Castillo (8 saves, 17 holds and 2 blown saves) and Jose Alvarado (7 saves, 8 holds and 2 blown saves) led the way, while 8 other pitchers combined for 11 saves, 69 holds and 9 blown saves.
As far as the calculations for the 2020 season go, it was a little bit of a crapshoot. However, there is still knowledge that can be gained if you focus on two separate statistics, WPA (Win Probability Added) and SVO (Save Opportunity), while giving some credence to SV% (Save Percentage) and Appearances as well.
In 2020 nine relief pitchers accumulated double digit saves, for a total of 101 between them in 162 appearances. Of the 162 appearances they had a save opportunity 130 times, so in the end the SV% of these relievers works out to 77.7%. The fact that not every appearance was a save opportunity, high leverage or successful (not that anyone expects that) probably explains why only three of the nine showed up in the top ten of WPA, the highest being Alex Colome of the White Sox who recorded 12 saves in 13 opportunities and 21 appearances; good for a WPA of 2.11. Brand Hand, who was perfect in his 16 save opportunities, leading the league saves, over 23 appearances barely made the top 10 with a 1.27 WPA or just slightly above average. So, chances are Colome was either put into more high leverage situations when he wasn’t closing or was just more successful in his non-save situations; because we know many times designated closers are put into situations just so they don’t have to go to long between appearances.
As far as the Pirates are concerned their leader in saves was Richard Rodriguez with 4 in 24 appearances and 5 opportunities. However, he did not have their highest WPA. That honor goes to Geoff Hartlieb, who came in at 27th amongst relievers at .76, while RichRod was second at .59. And if you are curious who was third, Sam Howard holds that honor at -.61. As a bullpen, they earned a combined -5.14 WPA, which isn’t much of surprise.
Based on all of this research, in 2018 and 2019, there was almost equal success deploying an assigned closer versus utilizing multiple relievers, as well as the fact that the closer was often used in situations where a save was not the ultimate goal. The same thing rings true in the truncated 2020 season, as even the most successful closer in Major League Baseball was not deployed in enough high leverage situations to allow him to influence the game more than a barely above average reliever. And in some instances, if a reliever is forced into the closer role it can have a detrimental effect on the game. Houston Astros relief pitcher Ryan Pressly had just as many save opportunities as Hand and ranked 6th in total saves, but earned a -.77 WPA.
Now I know I probably didn’t change anyone’s mind as to whether or not the Pirates should have a closer or even who it should be, I just hope everyone can be a little more open-minded about not forcing players into roles that may not be a part of the Pirates’ plans; whatever those plans might be. Also, maybe someone can explain to me why this became such a popular topic in middle of December.
As you are thinking about that, first and foremost, to those of you who say that Dejan, North Shore Nine, Matt Gajtka, Pittsburgh Sports Live and Bucco Cove are more reputable and know more than me, you are probably right and it’s why I listen to and/or read a lot of things other than what I put out.
Furthermore, to those of you who say that the Pirates don’t need a closer because they aren’t going to be in that many games anyway, this is not anywhere near the point of this article.
And finally to those of you who say I forgot to mention Rob Biertempfel’s article on the subject; first of all it came out after I started typing and had no bearing on my reasoning for writing this article and secondly I stopped paying to go behind The Athletic wall a few months back.
The Jameson Taillon Effect
In 2010 the Pittsburgh Pirates selected a stud right handed pitcher straight out of high school in Texas named Jameson Taillon and while nobody could justifiably call him a bust he certainly has had a rocky and injury plagued career.
His personal challenges and will to recover are certainly admirable but he is uniquely qualified to act as a timeline for the past ten years of Pirates baseball.
In his time, he’s been the hope of a brighter future, the perfect compliment to another top pick taken the very next season Gerrit Cole and eventually the expected ace of the staff, but every step of the way his timeline has shifted to battle back from injuries that would have shut a lesser man down for good.
All the way back in 2010 the Pirates were looking to change the way they’d done business, especially when it came to drafting young talent. Back then the draft was in many ways the wild wild west and signing players was less structured. And the Pirates had gotten precious little from a historic run of top 4 picks from 2006-2009, this string would actually continue through 2011 culminating in Gerrit Cole.
Jameson was selected number 2 overall and had already signed a letter of intent to attend Rice University. The media had all but assumed the Pirates missed again, Jamo looked sure to push aside the Bucs and head off to college, but in the eleventh hour they got the deal done, signing the big Canadian-Texan to a 6.5 Million dollar signing bonus, at the time the second highest in MLB draft history. Doesn’t sound very Piratey does it?
Everything went great, he was an MLB top 10 prospect appearing in Futures games, World Baseball classics and MiLB all star games, he was on track to make his debut in 2014, smack dab in the middle of the window that had opened up in Pittsburgh.
Then it happened, that twinge. As so many young pitchers eventually learn, they aren’t machines, they’re human beings, and the human body was not built to do what they do to it. Tommy John surgery was required.
Many people recognized what a blow this was both for him and the club but they had another stud on the way so somehow at least from a fan perspective the blow was lessened.
If this were just the initial injury there would still be a good chance he’d find his way back to the mound sometime in 2015 anyway so things would still work out many of us thought. Unfortunately Taillon suffered a sports hernia during his rehab and had to again be shut down.
To his credit Jamo never quit. A very smart guy, Taillon could have easily taken his signing bonus cash and gone about his life’s work but he considered that to be a MLB pitcher and he was willing to put in the work that it would require.
He finally made his way back to the mound in 2016 and after only 10 starts for Indianapolis he got his first call up to the big club. He’d receive a no-decision in his call up game and be sent back down but ironically an injury to Gerrit Cole provided another opportunity, one he wouldn’t let go. Facing the Mets for the second time in his second start he threw 8 scoreless innings and carried a no-hitter into the seventh. He’d never be sent back down. Jamo had arrived.
Excitement grew in Pittsburgh, yeah for the first time in 3 seasons the Bucs missed the playoffs but we were staring down the barrel at a rotation with Jameson and Gerrit as the 1-2 but fate struck again. In May of 2017 Taillon was diagnosed with testicular cancer and while he only missed a little more than a month he clearly wasn’t in top form upon his return. Jamo is good enough that his 80% is still better than most but the next season carried extra weight.
2018 would be an injury free season and his 3.20 ERA in 32 starts felt like he was finally here to accept his mantle. The next year started out looking much the same but after only 7 starts he was shut down with forearm tightness. After rehabbing it was determined he would need to undergo a second Tommy John procedure a devastating blow both for Jameson and the club itself.
Now, I haven’t told you anything you didn’t already know, but sometimes it’s good to put it all in one place to really put things in perspective.
Coming back from one thing like this isn’t a given, let alone all he’s gone through and while it sounds selfish look at what Jameson’s timeline has done to the Pirates. How many times has he been counted on to be at least one of the top pitchers in the rotation? The injuries completely robbed us from having he and Cole together which really would have changed some things would it not.
Throughout the rehab process Jameson has continually provided us with documentation of his recovery.
Hard not to get excited to see him firing the ball again, working on baseball stuff rather than just re-learning how to throw again. Potentially harder to let yourself get excited because through no fault of his own the man has been snake bitten.
His name has surfaced in trade rumors recently and who knows how seriously to take them, but make no mistake if he suits up in black and gold whenever this season starts he’ll step right in with expectation, fair or not.
I never question the mental toughness of the young man, but you also can’t ignore history. Along those lines, I think it’s fair to ask would he have already long since been traded if he hadn’t been plagued by all these setbacks? My heart likes to think no but my brain says absolutely.
If that’s so, perhaps in the end we’ll finally get to watch him really launch his career this season, fresh with new mechanics intended to reduce the strain on his arm and maximize his effectiveness.
If he never gets another out on a major league mound he’s forever earned my admiration and while we always will have that hint of what could have been, let’s try to remember how hard he’s fought to give us what could be.