9-21-24 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on Twitter
Lots of good ones this time. Appreciate the challenge.
Lets Go.
Question 1
Is Bednar pitching with an oblique injury? Could be a reason for the high ERA and alleged pitch tipping as he can’t turn much in his windup. – Mark Graham
No.
I wish it was more complicated than that, but it’s hard to entertain something that has no shred of possibility to it. He’s not hurt. Not now. His “tipping” was all about where he placed the glove pre-pitch, and by the way, he’s entirely changed it since the Trevor May video dropped. Now his glove is pinned to his body.
Nothing to do with whatever you think you’ve seen with his windup.
Sorry, I’d love to go all JFK investigator with you, I just can’t.
The only thing hurt on David is his pride.
Question 2
Will the pirates ever be good enough to win a World Series? Seems like they can’t even get into the postseason playoffs with any regularity – Shawn Fultz
Nobody can really answer this for you. The first question is one that every fan of every sports team ever has to ask themselves. Do YOU believe they’ll EVER be good enough to win it all? That’s the only thing that matters, and honestly, there are still people who would answer that negatively and be just as invested. Secondly, it more than seems that way Shawn, they don’t win with regularity, so of course, they don’t get into the post season.
Bluntly, if you get into the playoffs, you were probably good enough to win a World Series. Once the tournament starts, it’s about being the hottest team.
Question 3
Why didn’t Shelton and Cherington just run with the winning lineup instead of changing it. – Shawn Wheeler
This question came in after I asked for clarification about the first go at it. Shawn, I’m not sure what this “winning lineup” was. I can’t think of one 9 man lineup that I felt they should just stick with. I can think of sets of of players I’d write in pen and leave them be, but for this year’s club I’d have Reynolds at 2 and Cruz at 3, everything else, eh, change what you want.
Question 4
I understand it takes time for players to progress through the minors and, therefore, for GMs to see fruit at the MLB level. And yes, yes, COVID, I know. But even including MiLB acquisitions, there is a grand total of one Cherington guy who has stuck among position players, Nick Gonzales–and some might even quibble with that.
How damning should it be for a GM to have so little to show at eight positions five years in? – Zachary Kerr
They’ve clearly focused hard on pitching in the draft, it’s been the vast majority of their picks, so when you separate it out into position player vs pitcher, you should expect pitching to be outpacing it, especially with one of those picks being a can’t miss generational talent who started the All Star Game less than a year from his draft date.
In many ways, the speed with which some of the pitching has arrived has taken an already thin herd of position players and added pressure to not miss along with unhealthy expectation for progression.
The team has been desperate too, Henry was brought up here, and they’ve finally admitted this now, simply because he could hit and nobody in the Bigs was hitting. They didn’t put the time into his defense partially due to his injury, partially because the kid was destroying everything in the minors and they were panicked to show something offensively coming through the system.
Now, I’m personally not all that tweaked yet. But I know I’m abnormally patient when it comes to prospect development, and I think this entire tune is only one small aspect of how a team comes together.
The team sure is though. They’ve already replaced just about everyone involved in International Signings, Pro Scouting, Amateur Scouting and that all screams that they aren’t seeing the results they want to see.
Question 5
Much has been made about how Pirates fans have (mis)characterized O’Neil Cruz and other Latin ball players as dumb or lazy. Much has also been made about the failings of the Pirates Latin American scouting efforts.
Could it be that the reputation for how Latin players are perceived and treated causes prospects to prefer other opportunities? – Ed Fleming
Ed, we live in a society that quite literally might take the fact you spelled Oneil’s name wrong in that question and assign racism to it. You aren’t of course, but once someone says you are, their 25 clone accounts do too. Then come the warriors who are perpetually on the lookout for the potential that someone might have said something wrong, ready to pounce and see how far they can take it. Social media isn’t real life. 1 doesn’t equal 1 million. In fact, Tom254433yt38u3BunchaNumbers might not even be from Pittsburgh.
The Pirates have spent a ton of money on this market, and the facility in the D.R., but after they fired Rene Gayo for his misdeeds they have had very little success which is why they’ve yet again replaced the crew.
I guess it could trickle down there Ed, but I really doubt it. First, I don’t believe this phenomena to only exist in Pittsburgh. It’s really more of a generation thing than a regional thing if you ask me. And as mean as this sounds, those people are dying, more and more every day.
This is the only area of Baseball where the Pirates at least keep up with everyone else if not exceed as it comes to spending anyhow. Most of their successes or guys who look like they might be are players they’ve acquired via trade but were initially signed by another team. Luis Ortiz I believe represents the only player Mr. Vizcaino signed.
My honest opinion here Ed, the previous regime hired the wrong guys, this one took way too long to recognize it. That “reputation” I don’t think the Pirates, the city, the fans, are seen as being different from any other there.
Question 6
What will this year teach us about Bob Nutting as an owner? Firing the last management team was a welcome surprise, and the fans took hope from it. This time, with all the quantitative aspects saying the organizational rebuild is a failure, will he find better counsel? -Douglas Smith
I’ll maintain what I’ve felt all along. Ben Cherington is in no real danger of losing his job this year. I’m not going to pretend I know what “quantitative aspects” means to you, but it’s largely unimportant because I also don’t think anyone internally feels this is a failure yet.
If Bob feels the coaching is really bad and wants them fired, he’ll do it, just like he did last time after Huntington disagreed.
Fans for themselves decided how long was appropriate. Or they’ve held onto Dave Littlefield’s “5 year plan” and assigned it to everyone since. These guys have never once uttered those words. They’ve never even given you a timeline. I came up with my own timeline when this whole thing started and I had 2024 as .500 with a maybe sneak in goal, long before Paul Skenes was even a name, and let’s be real, he’s the reason this became a must win year.
Not once did you hear by this year we’ll be awesome. Nowhere will you find “if we aren’t here by this date, failure”.
What did he learn? Honestly, Probably to shut his mouth even more than he normally does. Every time he opened his mouth he made it seem like the GM had money to spend and chose not to. Now, he knows that’s not true, but he’s created an environment where he has a stated directive out there that he’s ok spending and it looks like the GM ignored him or thought he knew better.
Of course people think Bob is pissed enough to fire him. Thing is, he wasn’t being straight and it’s painted him into a virtual corner. I personally think he’ll just get some paint on his shoes and not talk much next year unless they have the turnaround they expect.
Question 7
With rotation and pen lacking pitch to contact guys, think that changes outlook on who plays SS this upcoming season? Odds of Alika on 40 next season? – Robert Bishop
I don’t see much reason to keep Alika on the 40-man, I also don’t think it has much to do with your first point. Bottom line, he’s just got a ceiling that even if reached probably makes him a glove first, light hitting bench player and they have better shots at production than him.
On the first point, HMM. I’m not sure thy lack pitch to contact guys as much as they have some guys who haven’t quite learned to hunt contact effectively yet.
Again, the freak leads the way. Paul Skenes has still racked up huge strikeout numbers, but as the season has played out, he’s learned he has to hunt contact a bit more if he wants to last deeper into games, he’s just having a hard time putting it into practice.
There have been games where he started out seeking contact and quick at bats, it’s led to getting touched up a bit here and there and then he goes back to what he’s comfortable with.
This is a team that very much so had pitch to contact guys especially in the rotation before this year and they played Cruz there so I can’t imagine now they’re making defensive decisions based on pitcher type, even if they should.
Question 8
What does our roster look like next year?
1B – Billy Cook
2B – Gonzales
3B – Hayes??
C – Endy & Bart/Grandal?
SS – IKF
LF – Reynolds
RF – Brian DLC
CF – Cruz
SP – Skenes
SP – Keller
SP – Jones
SP – Falter
SP – Oviedo
Bull Pen – Harrington, Chandler, Ashcraft, Ortiz, etc
What about Tamaar Johnson? Etc? – Tony Demangone
Obviously, I’m not ready to predict the entire roster, but this is probably a good start. Grandal has no place in this conversation, he’s a free agent, he’s older than the sun and they have too many options aside from him. You can take the question marks off Hayes, unless something changes and he has surgery, he’ll be back. I’d add Jack to the RF mix, they’ll want to give him a shot, maybe even in a platoon with De La Cruz. In fact, both of them could start in AAA and they’ll bring in a vet. Oviedo vs Ortiz, I’d probably flip them, but who knows, Harrington or Bubba could sneak in there and move both to the BP. If Johnson is here in 2025, it’ll be the very end most likely and would take Cook, Yorke who you somehow didn’t mention in all that, Gonzales, Peguero, Triolo, or maybe Hayes injury, well, point is, he’d need a lot to happen to open that door, not least of which would be his performance. He does legitimately look to be getting better, but he’ll start in AA for sure and I bet they have him there half the year minimally.
Question 9
What do you think the Pirates could have done differently when you look at the Milwaukee Brewers? The Brewers traded their ace to Baltimore, they let Craig Counsell go to the Cubs, I felt for sure they’d regress this year, but they won the division again after they just won it last year. Their payroll may be more than us, but when you compare it to the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, and the Phillies it’s peanut-sized. $114 million according to the adjusted combined totals, they don’t spend that much more when you think about it. Dejan Kovacevic berrates Ben Cherington every day on a daily basis and feels Bob Nutting should have chosen Matt Arnold, do you feel Dejan Kovacevic has some merit and do you feel Ben Cherington can get the Pirates over the hump and take this to the next level? – Neal Kokiko
Their payroll might even go down next year in Milwaukee. I see little chance they’ll be able to retain Willy Adames and I’d bet they’ll trade Devin Williams. They’ll still be good, might be the best run organization in baseball that isn’t Tampa. Matt Arnold was the number 2 in Milwaukee when the Pirates were doing their search, and I wanted him to be the selection as well, but as smart as Arnold is and as many good moves as he’s made, he has more flexibility to spend to win, as opposed to Bob Nutting’s modus operandi which is spend a little because you won.
The Brewers build it so you’ll come, the Pirates are the red headed brother in law trying to buy the damn farm.
And of course what Dejan says has some merit. Over the hump with Cherington? I think he’ll get them into the playoffs, does that count? If it doesn’t I’m not sure what to say, because the sun won’t rise on a day EVER where the Pirates roster side by side with the Dodgers/Yankees will ever look like an even match. Not under these economic conditions. I think he can and will put a playoff team on the field. I also think if he’s fired and replaced, the next guy who’s name I don’t know would too.
Question 10
How much value do you put into ‘counting’ stats? What do you use to evaluate if a player had a good season or not? Outside of the eye test. Bryan Reynolds might finish the season with the most hits he has ever had but was this year better than 2021 or 2022? – Patrick Bradford-Kenney
Hard to like or watch baseball without some kind of appreciation for stats. So let me say it this way. For Pirates players, I usually use stats to confirm my suspicions or prove me wrong because I watch them every game, so I have a good idea of how everyone is doing, stats might show me something I missed while doing so. For prospects, it’s rarely about the season stats it’s about where they start, where they finish, and more importantly, how they looked as they finished.
From watching Bryan this year, my takeaway is that this is the most consistent he’s been. He never had a really extended valley in production. That’s new, that’s important. Might not be his best statistical year, but if he can be a steadying force in the lineup that’s more important to me than MVP votes.
For other teams, I work backwards. Stats paint a picture, and I watch to see if the player backs up what I see in the stats. One game isn’t enough, but a series against a hitter? Yeah, it can be at times. If it’s a guy I might want them to trade for, I’ll watch a lot more video, read a lot more opinion from local outlets.
Question 11
Are we good to move on from Derek Shelton? If we had to do it all over again, should we have put Chandler, Harrington, and Ashcraft in the Bullpen? I don’t know how many limits that were issued from the front office but it appeared as if it were a complete management failure. Thoughts? – Tony Demangone
Sure.
I believe Ashcraft would have but he couldn’t stay healthy ultimately, which has just about always been his problem.
Chandler and Harrington moved multiple levels this year and have been up against it on innings for a while. No, I wouldn’t have done this to them for just about any reason.
Question 12
What is a reasonable guess to how much the Pirates will spend in free agency? Is Haines finally going to be fired thud offseason? – James Littleton
I bet they’ll target 30-35 Million and payroll will push over 100 Million, I’m also not entirely sure that’s all free agency as it could also be partially extensions. On Haines, I sure hope so. 3rd year running in which I feel it’s imperative.
Question 13
With B Rey looking like he’s moving to 1st, how you think the catching situation works out? I just kinda assumed one of them (Endy) would end up at first. Also, non Pirates question. I know you’re a beer guy like me. What’s your top 5? – Longbeards
I think Joey Bart has a stranglehold on the starting gig until he doesn’t. Henry or Endy could very well start in AAA too. I think here’s where I ultimately am on the catching, when I feel we have 3 good MLB level catchers who can hit, I’ll start figuring out ways of handling my good fortune. Endy is a switch hitting athlete, I don’t worry about where he plays all that much because I’m fairly confident he can play like 4 or 5 positions.
Henry is a bit tougher, but if he hits the way they think he ultimately will, they’ll find him a home, problem is, it might be less of a choice. And Bart has been incredible. Lets see how long it lasts ya know?
No matter what, if this management team remains, they won’t play anyone there more than like 120 games tops.
Now onto the awesome part of this question.
I travel a lot, so I could get all weird and regional on you about beer, I’m going to try to stick to what I can fairly easily get right here in almost any distributor.
5. Brew Gentlemen – General Braddock’s American IPA
4. Grist House Brewing/Eat N Park – Strawberry Pie Forever (This only comes out once a year)
3. Bell’s – Two Hearted IPA
2. Dogfish Head – SeaQuench Ale
1. Southern Tier Brewing – 2XIPA
Question 14
If Haines is let go, should we be confident the Pirates will significantly alter their hitting approach? Or should there be a fear that Cherington hires someone with a similar philosophy? – Nick Cammuso
They stuck with Haines long enough that I’m not confident about anything here with the approach. Now, I can say, I recently wrote something similar to this in spirit and one of my “Cherington guys” reached out to tell me I’m way off base, according to them Ben would never pretend to understand hitting enough to formulate a philosophy for hitters.
I’d also say, this is EXTREMELY overblown, and I’ve played a role in doing so. The philosophy as I understand it is so basic, I could probably assign it to every team in the league and there’s a very good chance they too have the concepts baked into their core program. It’s the application of the philosophy, the adjustments that guys don’t even know to ask about, the lack of help they get at the MLB level, despite how hard the guy works.
They need to make a change because no matter what Haines has failed to apply it, but the next guy will say a ton of the same things. It won’t be because Cherington fed him lines or he’s reading from the handbook, it’ll be because again, almost everyone has these principles baked into their program as well.
Question 15
How do we convince Nutting to fire GMBC, Shelton and Haines and hire Kim Ng as GM and beg and plead for Terry Francona to leave retirement? – Keith
LOL.
There’s a lot here bro. I’m not sure what Kim Ng has done that would make me beg anyone to do anything.
I’m also not a fire Cherington guy. If they chose to go that way, I wouldn’t throw a fit, but I truly don’t think it’s time for that. The other two, yeah, they should go and ultimately Cherignton refusing to do so and assuming Bob has a different opinion might be your best path to getting all three out.
I hate to do this to you Keith, but Bob might be your best bet.