7-21-25 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on X
The MLB trade deadline is in 10 days, and the Pirates will absolutely be moving a decent amount of their active roster. The fact that saying something like this isn’t terrifying pretty much sums up why it has to be done.
Today, I’m dumping a lot on you. Things I’ve heard, things I think and things I want to see. I’m not going to try to sell you a bright future, or paint an impossible path forward, as always, I’ll tell you what I know, and think but it’s up to you to decide what to do with it.
Lets Go!
1. Ready or Not, Here They Come
It doesn’t matter one bit whether the 2025 Pirates can handle the loss of a player. What I’m saying here is, whether a prospect is ready to fill a role or not, none of these rentals need to be retained.
I know some have suggested the possibility of holding onto Isiah Kiner-Falefa, but I really think they need to just clean out as much as they can here.
The team in 2026 already has a lot of it’s foundation. And yes, I know they could move some of these guys, but for the purposes of this conversation, assume moves are held to rentals.
SP Options – Paul Skenes, Mitch Keller, Mike Burrows, Bailey Falter, Johan Oviedo, Braxton Ashcraft, Bubba Chandler, Thomas Harrington, Hunter Barco, Jared Jones at some point later in the year. That’s with no free agents brought in. Not even a cheap soft tossing lefty as is tradition.
Hayes, Reynolds, Cruz, Horwitz, Davis, Gonzales are all very likely to be back and expected to start.
The only one of them with a legitimate chance to be dealt from this list is Hayes, and I’m not sure how realistic that is to believe. Reynolds you would be selling incredibly low, you owe the organization another year before you do something stupid.
Cruz will wind up at least close to a 30/30 season, I’m sorry, that’s good, no matter what you expected.
Horwitz will get the rest of this year, but let’s be real, they aren’t adding primary 1B to their shopping list for next year. And Davis is a 1:1, who has at the very least proven he can handle all the defensive responsibilities. Personally, I think with more consistent at bats that aspect will come along too, but it doesn’t have to in order to see him coming back and starting in 2026.
I point this out because, they could make 6-7 trades this deadline, Pham, Ferguson, Ramirez, Heaney, IKF, Bart, Santana, Bednar. OK, no fair talking about Bart, Santana and Bednar, they all have team control, just not much.
If they move all these guys, sure, it won’t feel great. The bullpen would take a big hit, IKF has been at least a good contact hitter. I personally won’t miss his glove at SS.
All of those players, packaged or not will return players. Some like Cam Devanney who might step right in and get a chance to help, some to pop in the lower levels and cross your fingers over.
When all that shakes out, we’ll see who comes up. We’ve pretty much had Cook and Yorke, Bubba and Barco to whine about this year, maybe these trades add a player or two into that mix of what comes up here and fills in the holes that have been created.
The rest of this year should be all about seeing what’s here for 2026, period. That should mean a reduced role for Cutch, who I do expect to return, but for this year, give some DH at bats to bigger questions, we know what Cutch is, let’s leave his tank half full.
Point is, get ready for kids, ready or not. Training wheels are and should be off.
2. Stop Thinking About Swinging, and Do It
Hitting is hard, and hitting with your mind full of mandates is even harder.
The Coach is preaching aggressiveness. The GM and his horde of analysts preach patience. The Hitting coach(s) have done precious little to effect the baseball club. Hitting coaches in MLB don’t effect every player, period, but what you can expect is for them to be good at something. Like finding power that’s been hidden, or helping players improve in zone whiff rates, or recognizing offspeed. Something.
Frankly, Hague could be great at any or all of those things, I just haven’t seen it. Haven’t heard anyone call him out in either direction of influence. Vogelbach is another story all together, here’s a guy who absolutely reflects exactly what Cherington wants in a hitter, so it made total sense when they brought him in as an assistant hitting coach, but the thing is, Vogelbach was elite at one thing, seeing more pitches than anyone else in baseball.
Yay right? Sure he had some power and it worked for him. He was a borderline MLB player who hung around longer because of the way he approached at bats. Thing is, he couldn’t do what Cruz can, so he lost nothing by seeing 8-9 pitches and not swinging at that one in the zone. He’s a compression bandage on a fractured leg, it won’t help, you never really should have thought it would but it looks like you tried.
Bottom line, get up to the plate with as clear a head as you can, and simplify as much as you can. It sounds dumb but sometimes it is best to just forget everything else and see ball-hit ball. I can say, when your approach as a GM is to produce a system that makes guys better hitters, you have 5 years of evidence it isn’t working, I dunno, maybe change the focus to finding guys that don’t need tricks to hit.
Having an overriding offensive philosophy is fine, but this one is designed to make Waiver claims average players. At best it does nothing for guys who can actually achieve more than that, but many times it catches them in the swirl around the drain.
3. The Room is Divided
Having veteran players around is awesome, and it’s entirely normal to expect them to be seen as a resource in the room. Problem is, all the energy on this baseball team is with one of the youngest players, who also happens to be the true leader of this room.
Guys aren’t disrespecting each other or anything crazy like that, but let’s just say, the highest this team ever got when they were good in the last decade, isn’t high enough of a target for the young leadership.
The best way to put this is, the Paul Skenes, Nick Gonzales, Jared Jones, Henry Davis types, don’t really have a lot of interest in looking back to that era as some guiding light. After all, they didn’t win.
The Tommy Pham, Andrew McCutchen, Neil Walker, Steven Brault, Fort, Capps, types who hang around talking about their own personal good old days or the good old days here, well, they’d like to be seen as a resource, and they certainly are respected, but they simply aren’t seen as examples of “how to win”.
And this leaves out the group of Reynolds, Hayes, Cruz, Keller who have all been absolutely bathed in this franchise. Too late to remember the good times, too early to still believe it’s building to something. Caught in the middle due to being quiet leaders to begin with, and having full banks of awful seasons to rub their nose in.
Everyone seems to really like the managerial change, but they’ve also just lost 11 of 12, so it stands to reason if this continues that won’t hold.
The point is, there is no unifying voice speaking for everyone. There are leaders. But no LEADER.
Don’t take this weird, it doesn’t take a leader to tell everyone to start hitting. It takes a leader to shut the locker room door, tell everyone what I say here is just for us, F what’s going on outside this room, F all the rumors, let’s just play baseball the way we can.
If you think that’s fan fiction type stuff, I did too until last week when I talked to Travis Snider former OF for the Buccos back when the run started in 2013, and he told me this is exactly what happened in that room.
I still don’t think they’ll trade a bunch of vets, but if you want a reason for an actual shakeup of the core players here, this is the best argument.
4. It Doesn’t Make Sense and Never Will
There’s a reason nobody can tell you what the plan is here with Ben Cherington or Travis Williams and it’s incredibly simple, it doesn’t make sense.
In fact, here’s how it would make sense.
If Bob Nutting were to come out and say this is my management team in 2026, I just straight up feel they need one more year.
Stop yelling at the screen, this didn’t happen, I’m just making a point.
But say he says it. Well, at the very least we, the fans, the writers, the podcasters, the journalists, we all get to ask questions based on this knowledge. We all get to challenge Bob on what exactly he thinks he sees. We get to open our minds to bigger trades and roster fluctuations.
Sure, we still want these guys gone, but at least we can prepare for what it looks like going forward and talk about it with some base of information.
Now, he hasn’t said anything like that, instead, he reasoned with the media that it would be too difficult to do in-season, which of course sounded a lot like by the end of the season this guy is meat.
That gave us questions too, most of them surrounding the concept of “What the hell are you letting a guy you’re going to fire make decisions that will effect the team beyond his tenure for?”
Cherington himself has moved on to 2026 messaging, Bob Nutting (last time he publicly spoke) said he wanted to focus on 2025, AKA right now.
Maybe the math changed in the background as the record continued to plummet, perhaps they’ve had an updated talk where Bob has now said ok, I get it lets look at 2026.
I still have to ask though, why are you ok with it? If he were to do a follow up interview now and was point blank asked if Cherington will be back, would he answer it straight up? I doubt it but folks, nothing is going to make sense until this team makes an effort to actually make decisions that look like they collectively are moving together.
I can make sense of things I disagree with. I can’t make sense of situations that are purposefully being kept in a state of nonsense.
Add all this to the list of things this room can’t look to for answers.
I believe Travis Williams and Ben Cherington will both be fired before 2026. I won’t put percentages on it because frankly, it’s lazy, but I will say if it’s only one who gets the axe, it’ll be Williams.
I don’t believe Ben Cherington will be permitted to execute any big trades, if only because I don’t think he has the sway to convince Bob it’ll work. (Again, makes no sense, this entire sentence, but it’s honestly where I am based on what I’ve heard and seen reported). I’ll just add here, the last person I want making the final call on a move is Bob Nutting, he doesn’t know baseball in that way for one thing, and most of the “bigger” trade candidates are PR hits waiting to happen, at least in his mind.
The Pirates payroll will still increase next year, provided they don’t trade one of their contracted pieces and might even if they do.
If both are fired, I think we can expect the new President to have an “in” with MLB. It’s been missing with Williams, and I’ve heard Bob recognizes he needs that for helping to oversee the baseball side of things.
That person would likely come with a list of candidates for GM in pocket, before even hiring the search firm.
The bottom line, it doesn’t make sense right now because it doesn’t make sense. None of it. That’s what turns all these conversations into death spirals. At some point, you have to willingly leave logic at the door to continue the conversation. It’s like trying to understand a multiverse story arc, nothing matters if every eventuality is plausible.
5. Don’t Cry For Me Pirates Nation….
I like baseball, and covering baseball, and talking about baseball, and I like doing it with all of you. A ton of comments lately on all the platforms I’m on anymore have been some level of empathy for my lot in life.
Please, don’t feel that way.
First, I’d be watching anyway. I’ve maybe ignored all of 10 ballgames since 2020 in total. Winning is a lot more fun of course, but maybe the best way to explain it is the way I explain it to my wife when she asks how I can keep watching losing night after night.
I told her it’s like my soap opera. See, she watches Young and the Restless, and I constantly ask her how the hell she keeps watching what I know she’s way to smart to enjoy. lol
She’s addicted to the story. One she’s shared with her great grandma, her grandma and her mother (it’s really her father but I like the guy so I went with mother). And it’s been bad for a long time, but every day there is a new story to follow, even if she scrolls Facebook the entire time it’s on.
Well, baseball is the same for me. It’s a story, with a lot of bad and a lot of good too. The 2013 Wild Card Game is like our Nicky and Victor wedding number 1 scene. Constantly waiting to see something that gives you the feels like that again, but understanding it probably isn’t coming while they have these shitty writers.
Get it?
As a fan, I want wins, and attitude and excitement and a CHANCE. As a writer/podcaster I want to journal the story and talk about ways it could go, and what could change the landscape or the fortunes of the team. Good or bad don’t change that.
Sure, they change my inflection, or my writing style, but they don’t change my enjoyment of the game, or the team or anything else.
I’m lucky, I’ve gotten to know several players through the years and I’ve come to understand the game going on between, before, during and after the games like I never thought I would. In some ways, I’ve seen too much, like my cousin who I took to a WWE show at PPG Paints Arena and he saw the wresters shaking hands back stage, shattering his belief system entirely for the “sport”.
Like, you can look at a player and just say DFA that piece of crap.
I have to think, does he have options? Are we sure he’s a piece of crap? Who’s going to backup SS then?
It’s different, but not damning. I appreciate the game from a different seat now than I did half a decade ago, but that doesn’t mean that I see a double and instantly turn to Statcast to see if it was the right kind of double based on the exit velo, I just appreciate the double.
I also get to see the struggles a bit behind the scenes. Players trying like hell to be consistent, while setting foot on a field maybe twice a week. A slight change in a swing plane that takes a guy from a line drive machine to a ground ball inevitability (cough, cough Reynolds).
A coach that’s completely checked out who is still going through the motions in the media may not hit reports, but it changes everything about how you read or hear his answers, or how you expect players to react to him.
Never forget why I started doing this, for free mind you. I felt this team had some of the worst coverage in professional sports, and trying to explain things to fans I hoped would empower them to have better conversations about the game, and the team.
I’ve gone through bouts of being discouraged that I haven’t had that effect, and have come out of it knowing the best I can do is put it out there, it reaches who it reaches.
I want you to think. And I want to make sure I give you as many tools to do so as I can.
All that said, losing sucks, and yes it gets boring saying every day they can’t hit in a different way, but it’s all part of the story.
I guess the difference is, I haven’t written the end already, which it seems most of my media brethren have long since done.
The only thing that would stop me from being a Pirates fan is the team moving, and that’s not happening, even in your beloved 2030 so many of you have fooled yourselves into believing is the real goal for Nutting because he’s Snidely Whiplash after all. lol
I actually get to make some money doing this now, and we’re getting close to putting some ads on this site to help get all our talented writers compensated for the hard work they do. That’s all because a bunch of you decided what I had to say was worth listening to.
I’ll never take that for granted. That doesn’t mean I’ll always agree with you, or you’ll never catch a stray cause your question pissed me off, it just means I know I’m not here without you.
And without the Pirates, I don’t have a team.
They are far from perfect, but they’re mine. I love them, even the bad players, and I love following the story with all of you.
Let’s run through the tape on 2025, it may not be the story we wanted to be telling, but you can’t pretend it’s on a boring path either. Plenty to talk about, and watch.
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