2-26-24 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on X
Sorry it’s late today peeps, had life stuff to deal with. Let’s dig right in tonight.
1. The Starting Catcher, Has NOT Been Named
Listen, Ben Cherington has now said the same exact thing twice about the Catching position. Derek Shelton has too. Part of me doesn’t want to bother with this again, since I already addressed it once but being as it has once again caused Pirates fans to Davinci Code this into a controversy, here goes.
Yasmani Grandal is on the team. Full stop. That’s all that’s ever been said about him, by anyone. The Pirates have 2 spots they’re going to allocate to the catching position and they haven’t decided who the second player will be.
I’m not sure why this has created the firestorm it has.
Never has it been said there is a competition for the backup role. They’ve gone out of their way to call them “spots”, meaning Grandal has one spot, and one of the other catchers will earn the other spot. Not the starter, not the backup, just a spot.
They haven’t named Grandal the starter, they’ve simply decided the guy they paid 2.5 million is going to make the team if health permits. This isn’t to name Grandal the “1” and whoever else the “2”, this isn’t the QB position, and it’s not how they worded it. He’s 1 of 2, not 1 then 2.
Let me spin this around for a second, because the reason and discussion I tried last time clearly didn’t take.
I’ll start right here, if Henry Davis is ready to start in MLB, the Pirates have no underlying benefit to start him in AAA. They save no real money. They’d really not stop his control clock, and they’d miss out on having his bat in the lineup.
I say all this because for some reason fans want to assume there is some Skeletor style evil plot, as though sabotaging their own 1:1 pick or the team is happening at all times. LOL
All they’ve said is they’ll pick their second catcher, likely from the group of Ali Sanchez, Jason Delay and Henry Davis. If you’re truly of the belief they’ve predetermined that Davis will start in AAA (they haven’t) the only reason to be mad is if he looks like he can do the job and they ship him anyway.
If you believe in Davis, you should believe he can win a competition for this job, Lord knows he does. Spring is about creating competition, even when there is none. They won’t name their 4th and 5th starters either, do you think that means Chase Anderson is automatically the 4? Apply your logic to other spots. Alika Williams is in camp, and they haven’t named Liover Peguero the starter at 2B, should we assume he’s headed to AAA so Alika can start?
Let’s say for whatever reason they just name Davis the starter. This is what many of you want to hear. Now imagine he simply looks like he can’t handle certain aspects and they have to backtrack. Sure would be nice if all three catchers fighting for a spot, actually thought they were fighting for a spot.
This is being blown out of proportion, and assumptions are being made by people who immediately read incompetence every time they speak.
Bottom line: They haven’t named a starter at the position, just acknowledged that the veteran they brought in will be one of them. Davis can, and is already off to a good start, win himself the gig, and if I had to guess, I’d assume he’ll do so. I’ll also go so far as to say he’ll prove he’s the starter.
2 days in, and we’re already getting mad about roster decisions that haven’t been made, aren’t being threatened to be made, and won’t be made.
Connor Joe started in Right Field yesterday, guess Olivares should pack it up right? It’s Spring Training, and if you’re honest, you want this team to tell you Henry Davis will be the starting catcher, period. That simply won’t happen until he either earns it, or by default and due to injury he’s the winner. Rookies are rarely handed starting roles on day 2 of the Spring schedule, and that’s all this is. Getting kids to run through the tape.
When they start making cuts, this stuff will clear up. Henry’s danger is if he looks like he can’t handle the position. All accounts are he looked really good Saturday. If he was a bit of cleanup and reps away from getting it, you could see him starting in AAA as the starter, but folks he’d have to be pretty damn shaky for that to come to fruition.
Relax. Henry doesn’t feel a quarter of the pressure many of you are feeling about this subject.
I’d say Ben and company could word it better, but man, I honestly think they’re trying to. Short of saying Henry is the starter unless he sucks is just not something you’re ever going to hear.
2. Young Pitchers
Jared Jones was straight up electric the other day, easily hitting 98-99 on the gun and the movement was incredible.
I hate to be that guy, but keep calm. It was just one inning and a lot of these youngsters are probably capable of one or two innings at this level, and I mean when the teams are at their full strength too, but someone like Jones, if you want him to be a starter has some more work to do.
I say this now because as the Spring rolls on you’ll see Solometo, Chandler, Skenes, Sullivan, Ashcraft, I mean this team has some very live young arms, just understand where they are, and that there is more to learn.
Conversely, should one or more get tattooed in an inning, that matters almost just as much.
The really important ones to watch are the guys who have some MLB experience, and a legit shot to make the club. Priester, Ortiz, Contreras, those types, they’re going to be working toward something right now, and that will cause the team to ask them to do things they won’t ask the others to do. That could mean more innings, it could even mean an entire outing with nothing but fastballs.
Every box score you see in Spring has an entire story behind it.
Back to Jared Jones, because he’s a great for instance. The Pirates spent almost all of 2023 teaching him a changeup and in his first outing of Spring, Jared threw almost exclusively fastballs and cutters, with one curveball mixed in.
That’s not to say he can’t throw a change, or that he shies away from the curve, it’s instead to say, in one inning, a kid with electric stuff didn’t need to show much of his secondary offering. If he were to start, the second time around he’d have to start using it a bit. On the other hand, it shouldn’t be assumed he can’t throw them and is destined to be a bullpen arm.
Patience is hard, but you simply can’t do the onboard process without it.
3. Roansy Day?
Today was a big day, because if Roansy Contreras can look like some semblance of what he was in 2022, well this could be a lot better to look at as far as a rotation goes.
So he went out today and threw a couple innings. For fans begging to see something positive, you kind of have to put on your X-ray glasses a bit cause they aren’t pretty numbers.
2 innings pitched, 4 hits, 2 earned runs, a walk and no strikeouts.
Yuck right?
Well, here’s the X-ray glasses, put them on if you like, skip ahead if Spring stats are it for you, I’ll even put it in a different color for you. Also, if you do skip, he sucks I guess
The Pirates clearly had him working on throwing a top of the zone heater in this game, regardless of outcome, it was their intention to make sure he threw this pitch to Big League competition. 3 or 4 in a row? Sure. To arguably three of the league’s best high fastball hitters going? Yup. Because teams aren’t scouting individual matchups the way they will later in Spring.
The important takeaways from today, he was consistently living at 95-96 with his fastball. He had one ball hit hard off of it, the other hits were two flares and a grounder. There was a lot of movement, and a lot of effectively so. Seeking soft contact, got soft contact. Breaking stuff had good movement, but not sharp, overall command issues but promising as it comes to the issues he had last year. Something to build on.
People, if Roansy Day can somehow come back, this whole thing looks a lot more in line with where it needs to be than even a week ago. A big Spring from Ro, and at least some of the Pirates unwillingness or lack of success adding to the rotation could be forgiven.
I’d still feel better about having another.
Keller, Perez, and Gonzales would be fine if Perez and Gonzales were both coming off solid seasons and health respectively. I’ll take both, and think both have a solid chance to really contribute, but what I fear are injuries or ineffectiveness.
The fear here is that you wind up calling on guys like Chase Anderson or Wily Peralta because they left themselves short. You want guys like Skenes to force their way into a call up, not get the nod because the team screwed themselves into being forced into it.
That is, was, and will be the fear.
I’ll remind, last year, we entered the season with Keller, Vinny, Brubaker, Hill, and Contreras. Before the first week of the season they lost Brubaker and it forced Oviedo into service, which he handled well, then Vinny went down and it forced them into piggy backing and ultimately calling up Quinn Priester before they wanted to, he didn’t fare so well.
In other words, they had one pitcher they felt could be ready to support this rotation in Oviedo.
Entering this year, if I had to pick 5 it’s not a steady feeling. You have the 3 I mentioned, then Ro, Quinn, Ortiz, and straight up rookies unless you use some of the NRI guys they brought in.
Signing another, even if it’s Lorenzen, could stabilize things, and provide an extra layer of protection before you have to get weird.
The Pirates may ultimately decide to not add, every passing day makes it seem more and more likely, but if they don’t, we probably shouldn’t assume they’re dead wrong any more than anyone would assume they’re completely right. Roansy, Quinn and Ortiz all have pedigree, and have experienced some MLB workload to varying levels of success. They could be right, and these guys are enough.
All I’m saying is, if I truly want to support this team’s chances to win something this year, I personally would add in another fortification. The Zombies may never attack from the West, but damnit, build the fence anyway.
4. 2 for 2
Two big dingers for Termarr Johnson the 19 year old 2B for the Buccos.
Now, I can’t sit here and tell you this is some career defining moment or he’s gunning for opening day, I simply can’t say something like that. What I can say is both these homeruns were off MLB pitchers, and not just guys who have been MLB pitchers, I mean current MLB pitchers.
The first, he hammered a high fastball on an 0-2 count, the second he jumped on a slider from a lefty on the first pitch and took it 402, oh, I almost forgot, on a line, this thing was a piss missile.
This kid is no joke as a prospect. His ceiling, well, it’s quite honestly still insane to imagine. At 19 years old, he will provide pressure for everyone in front of him manning second base. This year would be a stretch to be sure, but regardless of what Peguero, Bae, Triolo, Gonzales, Cheng all do, Termarr is comin’.
Just don’t go nuts when he gets cut in a week or so, Skenes will too, it’s just kinda how it goes with MLB rules, an injury starts the MLB clock past a certain date in Spring, and nobody, I mean nobody is going to do that with a highly touted prospect not on the 40-man.
5. Cruz Played Baseball
Man, it was good to see. He had a double play that looked a bit awkward and you kinda held your breath a bit and cringed, but he got it done, smiled a bit after. Had to feel good just to get tested a bit quickly. Arm sure as hell still works fine.
Took some big swings including launching a foul ball like well out of the park.
Almost none of it mattered. The important thing was seeing the big guy get back out there and do baseball things. Little things like that stutter stop double play, well, it tests him and his leg in ways therapy and training maybe don’t, and if it doesn’t hurt, he probably feels ever so much more confident in it. Even if it’s just in the back of his head, things like this help it fade.
Derek Shelton says they’re going to have to get creative trying to get him as many at bats as they can this Spring. Some of that might be in a DH role, just to give him plenty of rest.
It feels like anyone who sees the Pirates improving in any way assumes it will come 90% from Cruz, but I personally hate to pile that kind of pressure on, at least early in the season. Oneil is an athlete, but you can tell some mechanics didn’t just come to him, he worked himself to where he was, he didn’t just gift himself there. Sometimes that doesn’t snap right back, sometimes it does cause it’s so beaten in through repetition.
For now, I just wanna keep seeing him stretch himself at his own pace and have fun doing it. A loose Oneil is a fun to watch Oneil.