Instant takeaways from Pirates opening series loss to the Marlins

3-30-25 – Ethan S. Smith – @mvp_EtHaN

Well, the Pirates began their campaign in the same stadium as they did last season, with four games against the Miami Marlins, who are projected to be one of the worst clubs in MLB this year. Last season, Pittsburgh rocketed out of the gate against the Fish, sweeping the four-game set. This year? Yea, not even close.

Miami won in walk-off fashion in all three of their victories over the Pirates, thanks to plentiful amounts of insanely good defensive plays and, well, the Pirates own mental errors.

Here are some takeaways from the Pirates opening series.

The bullpen questions will only get louder

Last season, the Pirates bullpen was an absolute mess, with David Bednar and Colin Holderman taking significant steps back from their 2023 form and all but cost the Pirates a true shot at a wild card berth last season during the August collapse.

Dennis Santana was a bright spot and returned, and the Pirates even added outside additions such as Joey Wentz, Justin Lawrence Tim Mayza and Caleb Ferguson to try and give the unit a boost heading into 2025.

Bednar appeared in three games in this series and exited with a 36.00 ERA, two losses, a 6.00 WHIP, four hits allowed, two walks and just one strikeout, yikes. Holderman wasn’t much better, tossing three innings and allowing three earned runs on four hits in three appearances, so once again, it appears the Pirates may have a serious back-end bullpen problem.

Santana, Mayza, Wentz, Borucki and Ferguson all showcased scoreless outings throughout the series, but a bullpen is only as good as its back-end, and if Bednar and Holderman continue to struggle, like they did in Miami, it could yet again cost this Pirates club more than any of the other numerous problems they have.

We’ll move to a bright spot though.

The starting rotation is once again the clear strength

Although the bullpen seemed to bring back some old habits from last season, the starting rotation looked solid in this series versus Miami.

Paul Skenes threw five and a third innings on opening day, allowing two earned runs on three hits while striking out seven along the way. Mitch Keller saw success, tossing six innings of one-run ball, allowing five hits and striking out four. Bailey Falter overcame some personal demons from last year’s debut in Miami, tossing six innings while allowing just two runs to score. Even Andrew Heaney, who had a putrid spring, tossed five quality innings on Sunday, allowing just one run on four hits.

The absence of Jared Jones of course brings the ceiling of this rotation down a bit, but each starter gave the team five or more innings without allowing more than two runs to score. To be blunt, those are games you have to more often win than lose if you want to be a competitive baseball team, and the Pirates didn’t do that this weekend.

Yes, many will, and should point at the bullpen struggles as a major factor as to why this series went the way it did, but also point out how well the starters did in the same light.

The Pirates currently don’t have a starter listed for their Tuesday matchup with Tampa Bay, which could indicate a possible call-up situation, but for now, it looks like the starting pitching staff is the clear strength of this club, its just a matter of if it will eventually get some help sooner rather than later.

The offense has to be better, but some signs of good faith are there

This was not a juggernaut that the Pirates faced over this four-game set. Sandy Alcantara made his first start in well over a year and was followed by Connor Gillispie (career 4.25 ERA), Valente Bellozo (career 3.58 ERA) and Max Meyer (career 5.50 ERA), not exactly a murderer’s row of starting pitching.

In all four games, Pittsburgh failed to score more than four runs and were outhit by Miami in three of the four games, but there were some positive signs throughout the series of an uptick in offensive production.

The Pirates offense, albeit not scoring enough, was making solid contact all throughout this series. Jack Suwinski was robbed of a home run on Saturday by Griffin Conine and the Marlins, for what it’s worth, played some of the better outfield defense you’ll ever see from a team across a four game series.

Despite that, the Pirates were 1-for-9 with runners in scoring position on Thursday, 3-for-8 on Friday, the only win, 3-for-18 on Saturday and 1-for-5 on Sunday. That totals out to 8-for-40 with RISP, a .200 average, which just won’t be a recipe for success and obviously won’t hold that low as the season continues, but its a cause for concern.

Like the bullpen, the offense has to support this starting pitching staff, or this team will go absolutely nowhere, that isn’t speculation, that’s just a fact, because we saw it play out that way last year, didn’t we?

Winning on the margins you say?

Let’s make one thing clear, Miami deserved to win this series more than Pittsburgh, with a major factor being that the Marlins took advantage of some very questionable decision-making from the Pirates all throughout this series.

The Pirates had three errors in this series, each one proving costly in its own way. On top of that, there were multiple instances of poor base-running decisions, ranging from sending Tommy Pham home on Saturday in a clear hold spot – looking at you Mike Rabello – to whatever “strategy” Ji-hwan Bae was trying to pull off in the loss Sunday when he entered the game as a pinch runner.

Now, the aggressiveness on the base paths, let’s hope it continues as the season progresses, because the Pirates are an above-average team in the speed department and have real base stealing potential, but they have to be better at picking their spots to do so, and with the right guys.

Decision-making is really what this portion is about. When a team comes out, publicly, and says they want to “win on the margins”, they flat out have to, because they aren’t as talented a team as say Los Angeles, Philadelphia or either New York squad, so they can’t afford mental, and well, physical errors on a day-to-day basis, against any team, including a Marlins squad that is likely staring 100-losses in the face.

Better decisions will, hopefully, come in due time, which takes us to the final takeaway from this series.

Take a breath, it’s four games

Many of you will probably want to punch your computer screen, but, folks, its four games.

There are 158 more of these things, and 158 chances for the Pirates to fix all that went wrong in this series and build on what went right. We as fans could be having a completely different conversation by this time next week, because the Pirates have proven they can get hot in the past, especially in April.

The Rays, like Miami, are a beatable team for the Pirates and, truthfully, any team is when the Pirates are playing their best baseball, which they weren’t in these first four games.

The argument can also be made that they aren’t fielding their best 26 players, because they flat out aren’t, with the likes of Nick Yorke and Billy Cook taking a backseat to guys like Bae and Enmanuel Valdez, but that’s decision-making from up top that is happening for a reason.

Thomas Harrington will be here at some point. Yorke and Cook will likely be here at some point. Jared Jones will come back down the line, Gonzales will get healthy after a stinger to his ankle on his home run, just, breathe folks, breathe, because this team has the makings of one that can be competitive, things just have to fall in place correctly for that to happen, and the team has plenty of time to put those puzzle pieces together.

On the flip side, maybe the puzzle never comes together, maybe we never see the final picture, but the season isn’t dictated on four games in March, its dictated over all 162, so let the team speak for itself and rebound from this opening series loss.

Starter Spotlight: Max Effort

3–30-2025 – By Michael Castrignano – @412DoublePlay on X

After a pair of walk-off losses this series, the Pirates will need a bit extra if they want to avoid dropping 3 of 4 to the Marlins. On the other side of the bump, Miami’s starting pitcher will be looking for a much different outcome than the last time he faced the Pirates.

Selected third overall in the 2020 draft, Max Meyer surged through the minor league as he posted a combined 2.27 ERA with 130 strikeouts against 42 walks over 111 innings in AA/AAA ball. He continued that success in 2022 before earning a call-up to Miami on July 16th against the Phillies.

In his second start facing the Pirates, Meyer retired two of the three batters he faced – throwing just ten pitches – before leaving the game with elbow discomfort, eventually needing Tommy John surgery and missing the remainder of 2022 as well as the entire 2023 campaign.

Meyer split 2024 between Miami and the minors as he worked his way back through recovery and posting mixed results as he allowed 64 earned runs across 115 innings with 115 strikeouts but 43 walks and 23 home runs allowed.

That said, Meyer looked more locked in this spring. Over 5 starts, he gave up just 5 earned runs across 14 innings pitched with 2 walks and 11 strikeouts after making some changes within his pitch mix.

Meyer works pretty evenly with his mid-90s fastball up in the zone and low-90s slider dropping down and under the zone – comprising 81% of his total pitches last season.

He has broken that down a bit, adding a sweeper that drops in velocity from the slider to 86-87 range and potentially leaning more on his high-80s changeup and mid-90s sinker, which helped contribute to his excellent 50.6% ground ball rate in 2024.

Opposing hitters batted .330 against Meyer’s 4-seamer and slugged .648 against the offering, both the highest among any of his pitches so change would be necessary for it to not be just a “show” pitch going forward.

If he can build in deception between these pitches, changing speeds to keep hitters off the fastball, he will be VERY difficult to hit but if not, Bucs need to look for the heater early and often.

Starter Spotlight: Lucky Vallente

3–29-2025 – By Michael Castrignano – @412DoublePlay on X

Securing win #1 on the season wasn’t easy as the luck went the Pirates way this time around but their opponent today has proven in his short MLB career that it’s better to be lucky than good.

Taking the ball for the Marlins today, Vallente Bellozo was initially signed by the Astros in 2017 as an international free agent, joining the Marlins via trade last April and making his MLB debut less than three months later.

Bellozo (pronounced “Bay-oh-zo”) posted a 3.67 ERA over 68.2 innings of work for Miami, starting 13 games with a 3-4 record.

On the surface, pretty good but the peripherals paint a less rosy picture.

Last season, no one who threw as many innings as Bellozo had a greater difference between their ERA and FIP, nor posted a higher xFIP than he did.

These calculations draw from a combination of factors but someone with a low strikeout rate (14.9%), high average exit velo (90 MPH), above average strand rate (85.9%) and below average BABIP (.254) can’t keep getting THAT lucky, right?

The Pirates actually faced – and bested – Bellozo on September 9th last year and while he doesn’t have overpowering stuff, he has been tinkering to get a different look for opposing hitters.

Results didn’t look good in the spring as Bellozo posted a 9.45 ERA and 1.80 WHIP in 13.1 frames this month, though he did strike out 13 innings that stretch.

Alongside his revamped changeup, the 5’10 righty offers a high-80s 4-seam fastball, a low-80s cutter, a high-70s sweeper and a low-70s curve so the deception – if he can tunnel it – comes from the difference in velocity between those offerings.

If he’s not locating or mixing pitches well, it’ll be easier to hold on the heater upstairs or look to drive a hanging breaking ball.

Look for a specific pitch and be ready to pounce. Four runs was good enough yesterday but, as proven in Game 1, we aren’t always so lucky.

Starter Spotlight: Fishy Gil-lispie

3–28-2025 – By Michael Castrignano – @412DoublePlay on X

Following a dramatic walkoff that Pirates fans are all too familiar with, there’s always another game. Another chance for your team to show they aren’t completely hopeless, and the Pirates get that chance today as they’ll face Connor Gillispie.

Drafted in the 9th round in 2019 by the Baltimore Orioles, Gillispie’s development was stunted due to the pandemic and struggled to succeed in the Orioles system, posting a 4.00 ERA over 313 innings split between starter and reliever with the organization. 

He was plucked by the Cleveland Guardians in the minor league phase of the 2023 Rule 5 Draft and spent most the 2024 season with their AAA affiliate before making his MLB debut on August 4th.

Despite posting a 2.25 ERA over 8 innings, Gillispie was DFA’d in the offseason, briefly signing with the Atlanta Braves before being cut and catching on with the Marlins.

Gillispie doesn’t have raw “stuff” and relies primarily on his low-90s rising fastball at the top of the zone with his secondaries including a cutter and changeup in the high-80s and a low-80s slider.

One of the big issues that has been a struggle for Gillispie is control as he walked 10.1% of batters in AAA last season before issuing 5 free passes in the aforementioned 8 innings pitched in MLB.

Another issue for the rookie 27-year old is that when he does command his pitches, they are usually hit pretty hard.

His average exit velocity last year (albeit in a small sample size) was 90.3 MPH, which is almost the equivalent of Alec Bohm (90.4 average EV).

Bucs batters will want to exhibit patience today, take walks and look for the mistake pitches up in the zone but biggest thing moving forward is limiting mistakes on both sides of the ball.

Starter Spotlight: Starting Off Walking Sandy Beaches

3–27-2025 – By Michael Castrignano – @412DoublePlay on X

It’s officially baseball season (I mean, if you don’t count that silly Dodgers/Cubs thing last week) and we are BACK underway evaluating and discussing opposing starting pitchers.

Today, the Pirates head to South Beach and will open the season with Cy Young finalist, Paul Skenes, facing off against former Cy Young winner in Sandy Alcantara

Alcantara took home the award in 2022 after posting a 14-9 mark, 2.28 ERA and 207 strikeouts over 228.2 innings, leading MLB in innings, complete games (6), shutouts (1) and pitcher bWAR (8.0).

Since that breakout, Alcantara has suffered the same fate befalling many a Marlins pitcher: Tommy John Surgery.

Following a 2023 season of regression and underwhelming results – 4.14 ERA and 151 strikeouts over 184.2 innings – he was placed on the IL with a “right forearm flexor strain” which was later revealed to be in his UCL, requiring surgery and missing the entire 2024 season.

The 29-year old ace of the Miami staff has looked like his 2022 self this spring, posting a sparkling 0.00 over 12.1 innings of work with all five of his pitches ranking average or above in Stuff+.

Alcantara has a deep arsenal as he throws upper-90s on his fastballs, working a 4-seam/sinker mix that he pairs with a low-90s changeup and dropping to high-80s on his curve and slider.

Historically, he’s worked in the zone on his “soft” stuff and gone upstairs with the high heat.

Given that it’s first outing of the season and he hasn’t pitched in a regular MLB game in nearly 19 months, he’ll be eager to prove he has returned to form. 

Bucs batters will need to stay ready for the high heat and try to elevate the ball. Alcantara gets a ton of strikeouts and a ton of groundballs (career 50.4%) so Pirates will certainly have a challenge today getting the ball out of the infield.

Stay on heat up/soft stuff down, work counts and try to break in against Sandy to get to the Marlins bullpen.

2025 Opening Series Preview: Pirates (0-0) at Marlins (0-0)

3-27-25 – By Michael Castrignano – @412DoublePlay on X

The Pittsburgh Pirates open the 2025 season in Miami for a second consecutive year, looking to start strong and find consistency after two false-starts in 2023 and 2024.

Neither of these teams have been lighting it up offensively, ranking 24th (Pirates, 665) and 27th (Marlins, 637) in runs scored last season and both project to be bottom third offensively again this year as neither added much in a way of impact bats.

3/27
Pirates – Paul Skenes (R) – 11-3, 133 IP, 1.96 ERA, 170 Ks/32 walks, 0.95 WHIP
Marlins – Sandy Alcantara (R) (2023) – 7-12, 184.2 IP, 4.14 ERA, 151 Ks/42 walks, 1.21 WHIP

3/28
Pirates – Mitch Keller (R) – 11-8, 168.1 IP, 3.69 ERA, 193 Ks/66 walks, 1.23 WHIP
Marlins – Connor Gillispie (R) – 6-6, 128.2 IP, 3.43 ERA, 102 Ks/41 walks, 1.13 WHIP

3/29
Pirates – Bailey Falter (L) – 7-9, 155 IP, 4.53 ERA, 144 Ks/51 walks, 1.33 WHIP
Marlins – Valente Bellozo (R) – 11-11, 173 IP, 4.21 ERA, 160 Ks/48 walks, 1.29 WHIP

3/30
Pirates – Andrew Heaney (L) – 7-9, 155 IP, 4.53 ERA, 144 Ks/51 walks, 1.33 WHIP
Marlins – Max Meyer (R) – 11-11, 173 IP, 4.21 ERA, 160 Ks/48 walks, 1.29 WHIP

Pirates: Joey Bart – Looking to follow up on his breakout since coming over to Pittsburgh via trade early last season, Bart slashed .350/.429/.625 this spring clubbing 3 home runs over 15 games. Bart will be primary catcher heading into the season and, following a .799 OPS year where Bart played 80 games, fans will be eager to see if he can take another step forward offensively.

Marlins: Xavier Edwards – There are not many bats to like on the Marlins right now as the perpetual tear downs have relieved Miami of much offensive output. That said, Edwards is poised to be a bright spot for the Fish this year.

After posting an .820 OPS with 31 stolen bases through just 70 MLB games last season, Edwards hit .308 this spring, stole 3 bases and walked (11) more times than he struck out (9).

Pirates: Andrew McCutchen – Cutch had a shortened spring training last year due to recovering from his torn Achilles suffered the previous season but performed well when he played, posting a .908 OPS over 21 plate appearances.

This spring, he hasn’t looked as ready to go, scuffling to a .543 OPS and batting just .156 with no extra base hits over 15 games played. Given that he has become a DH-only player, Cutch will have to bring the bat to provide value to the Pirates in 2025.

Marlins: Kyle Stowers – Coming over from Baltimore at the trade deadline last year, Stowers was looking to take advantage of ample playing time to prove himself capable of an everyday major league job. Unfortunately, all he has proven is how overmatched a person can look.

After hitting .306 over 19 games with the Orioles, he struggled once he arrived in Miami, posting a .186/.262/.295 slash line through the next 50 games. He hit just .175 over 40 at-bats this spring, striking out nearly half of the time (18) – a recurring issue for the lefty outfielder.

Key Injuries

Pirates: Jared Jones (right elbow discomfort) – The news from this week was about as positive as we could have hoped for but Jones will still open the season on the IL and miss a good portion of the first half of the season.

Marlins: Ryan Weathers (left forearm strain) – Weathers was looking like a breakout candidate this spring when he allowed just one run off 3 hits with 11 strikeouts through 11.1 innings but forearm strain to the pitching arm is always concerning.

Team Notes

Former Indianapolis Indians broadcaster, Jack McMullen, has joined the Marlins broadcast booth and will call his first MLB series with many players he’s seen play at the Pirates top affiliate the past few years.

The Pirates won all 7 games against the Marlins last season, the first time they went undefeated against them in a single season in franchise history.

Pittsburgh Pirates Opening Day 2025

3-27-25 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on X

We made it.

We fought through the entire offseason and here we are, ready for the first pitch.

I don’t know what to make of the team this year. I mean, they could be worse than last year, .500 on the nose or better.

The Pirates have in the year of our Lord 2025 assembled a team full of question marks and placeholders. I can tell you anyone predicting this team to tread water in the upcoming year probably have a lot of dancing partners. Frankly, that’s what I see too.

That’s what I see because the hardest thing in the world to envision, is something you haven’t seen yet in MLB.

Get what I mean? Like, for instance, back in 2021 before the season began, it was considered silly to believe Bryan Reynolds could ever be more than a 20 Homerun guy, and he’s never hit fewer than 24 since.

Point is, no projection is going to give you credit for what you haven’t done. In fact, some of them are reluctant to even extrapolate, meaning you played 100 games, they aren’t going to pretend they know you’re getting 150 this year, feel me?

Fans aren’t projection sites of course, but we think a lot like them.

We give credit to two things as baseball fans.

  1. Guys we’ve seen do something. Bonus points if he’s done it more than once.
  2. Guys we haven’t seen do anything yet, but they have boundless potential. This lasts for maybe 60 at bats or 20 innings.

Me too man, it’s not like I’m pointing at you here, I’m just saying we all struggle to see or accept something until it happens. If we disagree its really about how long you give things to work before you’ve seen enough. That’s all.

We’re at a place in this whole thing, meaning the Cherington Era, where they really should have some urgency to succeed. There’s no escaping it really, it just hasn’t felt like a very inspired effort this offseason to really hype up the team, beef up the team, sell a move, push a narrative, speak to a burning question, whatever.

Just quiet. Accepting almost of their fate. I don’t know, it just felt like they went dormant. They started rumors themselves telling reporters they still wanted to get another outfielder as camp began, and directly claiming another move would be coming siting the end of Spring Training as when they see the end of the offseason.

What happened to that? Did they try? As hungry as these media are for rumors you’d think you’d have heard something. Did you? I mean come out and tell us we saw what Jack and Bae did and we were like, F it, we don’t need one now. Sure, some people will be mad or challenge you that it wasn’t enough, but at least it would feel purposeful. After all You changed Your plan, not the plan we gave you. I’d just like to know why that changed.

The players are saying all the right things and they seem confident but hey, that’s Spring to a degree. That’s like asking your mom if you look good before you leave for prom. Of course you look handsome as hell to her you ugly bastard.

I want to like the bullpen. 4 lefty’s is a bit weird, but then again, the NL Central has a decent amount of big lefties or guys you’d like to have hitting righty instead, so maybe there is some hidden logic there. Generally the biggest concern is Bednar, at least to me. Man, if you’re telling the dugout reporter you need to remember you’re a good pitcher, it doesn’t give you the warm and fuzzies. His season could go any number of ways. If it does, who do they go to, how many games to they wreck on the way to the decision?

Is Cruz gonna finally show all the way up? I mean are we done with reasons why we can’t expect that yet? Does he have to be 30 first? Here’s where I really have to say, let’s see it now. Run the bases like a deer. Pay attention all the time. Hustle all the time. Embrace centerfield like you could dominate the position. And just hit baseballs. We need to see this guy arrive if they’ve got any shot.

We need to see Ke’Bryan Hayes fully accept what he is and take those line drives to right and right-center, and walks. Steal some bases here and there. Pop the odd homer. Play 120 games. That’s a fair challenge right? Do that, I completely get it, and that’s a nice part of a lineup, a solid 6-7 hole guy.

Endy, just stay within yourself, see, how can you predict what he’s gonna do this year?

The team is full of stories like this, from cast offs like Jack to guys you thought were tossed out last year like Bae. This year’s opening day roster is completely loaded with question marks.

So predict all you like. I host 6 or 7 shows a week and write a crap ton too, it’s kinda hard to avoid it once or twice. Just have the humility to accept, you might think….but you don’t know.

There are reasons to believe, there are probably more to be skeptical, but a lot of this roster is the exact opposite of consistent.

I lead off with Reynolds, well, he’s about it. Mr. Consistent. Skenes too, even if that’s not fair to him.

Until we see it, you’re foolish to believe it. Right?

I’m all for miracles, I’d just like my chances better if I were only praying for one.

I think the Pirates will get to the .500 mark this year, I have them around 83 wins, which I don’t think will get it done this year. That said, I made this pick before Jared Jones was injured, so I’m bitter about keeping continuity there. LOL If I had to do it over, I dunno, maybe I’d still go 81 and 81, I never thought until right now.

This division is like this actually. Look at the Reds Outfield….. gross. Cubs probably don’t have enough pitching. Brewers have the Cardinals devil magic, but on paper they took a real hit. The Cards are going to be accidentally right there because they couldn’t sell off.

Hey, listen, we’re all gonna watch it right? I mean you read this far, yeah, you will.

I’ll be here to talk about it. We’ll see what happens.

I’d love to call them geniuses in September and laugh at all my freezing cold takes.

And honestly, I’d rather talk about baseball, good or bad over offseason BS any day, so let’s go.

Did This Pirates Opening Day Roster Improve on 2024’s?

3-25-25 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on X

If you’re here, and didn’t just leave me something stupid to laugh at in comment section, let’s lay out some ground rules for this discussion.

What I want to do today is simply and clearly compare the 2024 Opening Day Roster to the one it sure looks like they’ll trot out there to open 2025.

Sounds simple right? Well, as soon as I get started, I, You, Your Aunt Margie, all of us are immediately going to want to start blaming so and so for this or that, or excusing things because they can’t control them or pretending injuries didn’t happen….

Look, all that stuff is real, and it has a place. Just not right now, not until I’ve done the comp first completely unfiltered by how it happened.

So let’s get started and the question is simple, Which one is better?

Let’s start with the obvious, the overlaps.

Keller and Falter. Probably feel a bit better about Falter, probably flatline on Keller, meaning you know his baseline, and you expect it even if you hope for better.

Jones is out, Skenes is in. There’s an unfortunate thing to write, but for this little project, head to head, there’s no denying that’s an upgrade.

Heaney vs Perez, they’re probably relatively close actually, Heaney might be a touch more consistent. Carmen vs Marco, we never thought one would last and the other we never expected to see.

All in all, slight uptick from opening day last year.

Yeah, yeah, there’s more depth behind it this year, but that’s not what this is about. This is about a team that added Paul Skenes from one Opening Day to the next and only netted a slight upgrade in their rotation, on paper.

Let’s keep moving….

Now, I don’t know 100% this is the 2025 mix. Let’s get that from the start. They want to take their time, but I want to write about happy stuff on Opening Day, so I’m not waiting around.

There are 3 holdovers, Stratton, Bednar and Borucki. Hard to see Bednar as a change from last year, maybe the way we felt about him at the time. Borucki we liked and we still like right? Stratton was pretty good, still looks pretty good.

The big difference is no Chapman, now you get to add in Holderman and Santana, but you don’t have a power lefty, nor do you have someone who has successfully worn the closer role who isn’t named Bednar.

Still, it’s not much different, maybe it’s impossible to do this with a bullpen since you know it’ll change like 30+ times throughout the season.

I’ll call it a wash leaning toward a bit of a downturn, if only because losing Chapman cost them some proven “special” and security.

Ok, the pitching is down, so between my slight up on starters and slight down on relievers, let’s call it a draw.

Now the real fun….

OK, well for starters, we have two returning guys, Reynolds and Suwinski. Reynolds is old faithful at this point, and Jack, well, who the hell knows, but I said the same thing last year, so net even on those two.

I think Pham will hit more than Taylor, there, I said it. I think he’ll also play nowhere near as well in the field, so I said that too. Connor Joe it could be argued was more of a first baseman, but, we’ll leave him here and compare him to Bae. Completely different players, but I bet they contribute almost the same value. And of course Cruz, his defense is a question, but one we’ve seen some peeks at the answer for already, and his bat vs Olivares, please.

I know it’s not the popular narrative, but how can I see that as anything but decidedly better than last year? Yeah, it’s mostly based on a position change vs acquisition, but before you lose faith in my project here, we’ll pay for it in our next segment.

Ok, Rowdy vs Endy, we sure hope is an upgrade, but it has to be hope. So for now, we lean a bit that way and you’ll notice an extra slot here, that’s because our likely starting 1B is also our backup catcher, that’ll be fun, and tiring, and I bet it doesn’t last lo…….Hey, no fair, I’m cheating at my own game.

Triolo could also be the starter at 1B, but it would make sense for Endy to get the lion’s share and Jared will be needed elsewhere a lot too. Hard to not see Gonzales as an upgrade, at least with the stick at 2B.

Cruz for IKF? Yeah, that’s a no brainer downgrade, even if the defense improves with a downturn in errors.

Hayes is Hayes and he has all the same problems, just more evidence they won’t go away.

Frazier vs Williams, the fact I have to think about it should tell you how I feel about him on the roster.

Overall, I’d say downturn. A little up here and there, but can’t overcome the Cruz swap, nor did they try, but I digress.

Last but not least….

Every year Cutch plays could be the year he hits the wall entirely, but for now, it’s a wash. Bart over either Davis or Delay is an easy one. Endy beats out the previous backup easy, but how thin can they stretch him.

Bart makes this an upgrade, for now.

So for the offense, we have 2 slight upticks and one downturn. Probably pretty close to a wash.

So what does all this mean?

Well let’s tick the findings off…

  • First, moving Oneil Cruz kinda had no impact. They plucked him from one hurting unit and moved him to another.
  • The Vaunted pitching, well, it’s just about what it was last year to start.
  • There are two personnel changes that had impact, Joey Bart coming in, Aroldis Chapman leaving.
  • Not only did they not build around Paul Skenes, they just about stayed right where they were, barely any upward movement at all, even with his addition.

The truth is, if there is any optimism about this club, it’s the kids that could be coming. It’s the Bubba Chandler’s and Thomas Harrington’s. It’s the guys who could be coming off the Il like Jones and Oviedo, Moreta. It’s the offensive reinforcements we hope force their way into the dance like Yorke, and Cook and Henry. Nicolas, Burrows, Ashcraft…. you know, the group they decided to keep in MiLB for now.

Now if you want to reintroduce all the reasons things happened the way they did and give them grace for injuries or performances less than expected, have at it.

I’m just saying, when you want to understand why the fan base at large isn’t excited, well, here it is in unfiltered black and white. It looks like the same thing. Following two seasons of the same thing.

And there were so many ways to have it feel differently, from spending a bit, to spending more on one piece as opposed to 5 little ones, to just letting a kid people haven’t already given up on get an opportunity instead of a never was who probably still isn’t.

Take from this what you will. I don’t always write this stuff out, but this is something I make myself do every year.

I mean think about it, did this team, meaning just about everyone involved, not sound more positive they were headed to a winning season last year vs this year? No grand proclamations this year. Those have been replaced by the mantra that they simply have to do everything right.

Maybe management should try that out next offseason…

Two American League teams from 2024 could be benchmarks for the Pirates 2025 ceiling and floor

3/25/2025 – Ethan Smith – @mvp_EtHaN

The 2025 Pittsburgh Pirates season is just about here, with anticipation building as to how this iteration of the North Shore ball club will stack up with the competition.

Bluntly, 2024 was a dud for Pittsburgh. The additions of Paul Skenes and Jared Jones sparked confidence in the Pirates starting rotation. Oneil Cruz finally got a full season of just playing baseball under his belt, with a position change added in. The kids tried to make themselves mainstays, some did, some didn’t, looking at you Henry Davis. Despite all that happened in 2024, one thing remained the same, the record, 76-86, which is looked on as an absolute failure when you consider Skenes and Cruz alone added 8.4 WAR on their own.

Its 2025 now, and many of you reading obviously know that and have probably firmly stuck 2024 in your rear view, but lets go back just one last time.

Ceilings and floors always devour the offseason chatter landscape, seeing as with a team like Pittsburgh, the offseason can drag when moves are spread out and not in abundance compared to a team like the Dodgers. The Pirates ceiling compared to their floor, respectively, are drastically far apart. This team could as easily win 86 games as easily as it could lose 86, again, and that’s a scary thought process, especially considering the club is entering year five of this thing with general manager Ben Cherington and manager Derek Shelton.

With this practice, let’s make one thing clear, the Pirates only “compare” to these two teams, the club is not an exact replica of either, just awfully comparable in numerous departments that make up a baseball team’s roster and funny enough, the two teams outside of Pittsburgh that will be discussed throughout this piece are awfully comparable in their own right, and had very, very different outcomes to their 2024 seasons.

All that said, let me explain myself.

The 2024 Floor Comp

When you hop on a cross country flight, things feel different when you leave the east coast and head out west, naturally of course with the time change and differentiating cultures within that exist in the United States.

Although different in many aspects, the Pirates and Seattle Mariners are damn near carbon copies of each other, and you’re probably already asking,”Wait, didn’t the Mariners win 85 games last year? How in the hell do they compare to the Pirates?!”, and you’d be right in your statement, seeing as calling this the “floor” for the 2025 Pirates would mean winning 85 games, but let’s look deeper.

The Mariners were a dominant starting pitching squad in 2024, sporting the league’s best ERA(3.49) as a team last year, headlined by Logan Gilbert and George Kirby, who had a FIP of 3.27 and 3.26 respectively, with each sporting a K/9 north of 8.4, sounds great right?

Add in Bryce Miller, and Bryan Woo, who each sported an ERA below 3.00 and became immediate mainstays in the Mariners rotation at just 25 and 24 years old. Luis Castillo, the supposed ace of the club entering 2024, hasn’t even been mentioned yet, and his season was impressive as well, sporting a 3.64 ERA and a 1.8 WAR.

That still doesn’t include young upstart Emerson Hancock, who should get plenty of opportunities in 2025 and should only add to what could be the best rotation in MLB by year’s end.

This should all sound rather familiar as a Pirates fan, seeing as the three-headed monster of Skenes, Jones and Mitch Keller spearheaded what was the best unit for the Buccos last season, the starting rotation. Like the Mariners, that appears to be the case again for Pittsburgh, even with the news that Jared Jones could miss extended time. Bubba Chandler, Thomas Harrington, Anthony Solometo, Mike Burrows and Johan Oviedo all have chances to make a real impact in this rotation THIS year, so the Pirates have plenty of forces ready to make the rotation a top-10 unit.

So, what was the Mariners biggest issue last season, leading to falling short of the postseason, despite an 85 win season? If you guessed the offense, well, let’s just say you hit it right on the nose.

The Pirates offense was putrid last year, as it has been for quite some time, slashing .234/.301/.371/.672 and ranking bottom-10 in baseball, pretty bad right?

Seattle, and to remind you all again, an 85-win club, slashed .224/.311/.376/.687 last season, with the batting average ranking 29th in MLB and the OPS ranking bottom-10 in MLB. For players that played 100-plus games with the Mariners last year, so this excludes trade acquisition Randy Arozarena, the Mariners had just three position players with an OPS north of .700, which is considered league average. Those players were Julio Rodriguez, Luke Raley and recently extended Cal Raleigh, all who were and will continue to be worthy contributors to the offense moving forward.

The rest was and still are question marks. Victor Robles is well, “fine”, Arozarena has a chance to stamp himself into Seattle with a full season, and the rest are below average. It ended up being the Achilles heel for the Mariners, who mind you also had a phenomenal bullpen with Andres Munoz, Trent Thorton and others, something the Pirates didn’t have.

Seattle enters 2025 with nearly the exact same question as Pittsburgh, “Can the offense take a step forward and help out the starting rotation?”, and for both teams, it could end up being the dagger to the heart of their seasons in 2025.

Yes, Seattle won 85 games, but even that win total may not be enough to make it to the postseason as a wild card team in a loaded National League this season, and comparing this 2025 Pirates team to the 2024 Mariners, outside of record, should make you wonder if the Pirates could end up in the same spot, missing the postseason despite well above average starting pitching due to a poor offense, but another team in the American League managed to overcome the same conundrum in 2024 and had one of its best seasons in a decade. You probably have a pretty good idea who.

The 2024 Ceiling Comp

One of the best stories of the 2024 playoffs was the Detroit Tigers, who snuck their way into the postseason with an 86-76 record and shocking many by putting three AL Central teams into the playoffs after the division was considered to be the worst division in baseball before the season began.

Detroit didn’t only make the playoffs, but they defeated the Houston Astros in the Wild Card round, taking down one of the best teams in baseball over the past decade. Detroit gave division rival Cleveland a run for their money as well in the ALDS, forcing five games against a Guardians squad that all but ran away with the division for a large part of 2024.

Now, losing in the ALDS stung for the Tigers, but it was their first postseason berth since 2014, ending a decade-long drought of postseason baseball.

Like Seattle, the Tigers clear strength was its starting pitching, ranking 3rd in MLB in ERA(3.61), just behind Seattle and Atlanta.

Tarik Skubal was the catalyst for the starting pitching staff, posting a 2.39 ERA and 228 strikeouts en route to winning the AL Cy Young Award in his fifth season with the Tigers. Jack Flaherty was strong before being traded at the deadline to the Dodgers and returned to the Tigers in 2025 free agency. Youngster Reese Olson showed strides, Casey Mize continues to grow, and Jackson Jobe has a legit shot to be a Rookie of the Year candidate this year.

Like Pittsburgh and Seattle though, the Tigers offense was below-average, sandwiched in between both slashing .224/.311/.376/.687, with the OPS ranking bottom-10 in baseball. Of the bottom-10 offenses in terms of OPS in 2024, Detroit was the only to make the postseason, so, unlike Seattle, the Tigers managed to find a way to get into the dance in October despite poor offensive production.

How does this all connect with Pittsburgh? Well, per FanGraphs, the Pirates offense is projected to have just two players projected to have an OPS north of .750, those being Bryan Reynolds and Oneil Cruz. Reynolds is who he is, which is a good thing, while Cruz has enormous offensive potential but questions remain about his consistency. The rest? Tons of questions.

As stated before, the 2024 Mariners and 2024 Tigers are a great floor and ceiling metric for this Pirates team, because, as expected, starting pitching appears to be the true outlier of this Pirates roster, and one would hope the offense can take much needed steps forward in an effort to competing for a NL Central title, its hard to say in confidence that the offense takes that step forward with what is available right now, but Detroit found a way, while Seattle did not.

Can the Pirates find a way, or are they staring another missed postseason in the face due to another below average offense?

2025 NL Central Futures, Predictions & Superlatives

3-25-25 – By Corey Shrader – @CoreyShrader on X; Michael Castrignano – @412DoublePlay on X

As the season gets ready to ramp up, we peer once more into our crystal ball to make some predictions for the division. We had some hits and some misses when we tried this last year but we are 100% confident that we will DEFINITELY get some picks right this time around… probably.

Corey’s Picks:

2025 NL Central Champions: Chicago Cubs

Chicago has a lot going for themselves on the cusp of 2025. Featuring a potent lineup that is now anchored by a true superstar in Kyle Tucker, this Cubs group appears to be a playoff contender. Relying on uber-prospects like Crow-Armstrong and Shaw in the mix adds a layer of uncertainty (for better and worse), but there is a solid floor of talent in place to help weather adjustment period rough patches. The pitching side sees two frontline starters in Steele & Imanaga with a less sturdy rest of the rotation. Matthew Boyd flashed some very promising juice in Cleveland in 2024. If he can carry that into 2025 it will make a big difference for this club. The bullpen for Chicago has been revamped into what looks like a strong group for 2025 too. This is the club to beat in my opinion.

NL Central Awards 

Most Valuable Player: Jackson Chourio

Cy Young: Paul Skenes

Rookie of the Year: Matt Shaw

Most Improved: Garrett Mitchell

Comeback Player: Matt McLain

Fireman of the Year: Ryan Helsley

 The NL Central boasts some very high end talent right now. Selecting these superlatives was not that easy at all. The MVP race looks to me to be a three way affair between Kyle Tucker, Elly de La Cruz, & Jackson Chourio. I am going with the youngest of the three as he looks every bit of the megastar many expected at just the tender age of 21 on opening day.

For Cy Young it would be foolish not to take the chalk. Paul Skenes is that guy. My Darkhorse pick here would be Hunter Greene, but I am not sure it will be close in the end. Skenes all the way.

ROY is another one that should prove to be a close affair. Matt Shaw is my pick for his status as an every day player and an elite prospect. Bubba Chandler certainly has as good of odds as anyone. It will be a matter of getting the innings to put together enough of a body of work to take the title.Brewers newcomer Caleb Durbin could be a dark horse here, but without breaking camp in Milwaukee that seems a bit far fetched. Other possibles: Quinn Mathews, Tink Hence, Logan Henderson, Gage Workman, Thomas Harrington, or Nick Yorke.

Most Improved has so many options it is a “pick your poison” task. Garrett Mitchell has been a favorite prospect of mine for some time and I think 2025 we see him blossom into an every day CF.

Comeback player for me has an overwhelming favorite in Matt McLain. Sidelined by a litany of injuries in 2024, McLain is poised to become a well-above average MLB regular again in 2025.

Fireman of the Year feels “safe” with Ryan Helsley. There is a talented crop of back end bullpen arms here such as Trevor Megill, Ryan Pressly, David Bednar, Porter Hodge, Tony Santillan, and up and comers like Craig Yoho or Zach Maxwell. Helsley seems like a lock to me. 

All NL Central First Team 

C: William Contreras

1B: Willson Conteras

2B: Matt McLain

SS: Elly de La Cruz

3B: Ke’Bryan Hayes

OF: Kyle Tucker

OF: Oneil Cruz

OF: Jackson Chourio

DH: Alec Burleson

SP: Paul Skenes, Justin Steele, Shota Imanaga, Hunter Greene, Sonny Gray

RP: Ryan Helsley, Trevor Megill, Porter Hodge

All NL Central Second Team 

C: Ivan Herrera

1B: Michael Busch

2B: Brice Turang

SS: Dansby Swanson

3B: Matt Shaw

OF: Pete Crow-Armstrong

OF: Bryan Reynolds

OF: Garrett Mitchell

DH/UT: Gage Workman

SP: Freddy Peralta, Nick Lodolo, Mitch Keller, Brady Singer, Bubba Chandler

RP: Tony Santillan, Craig Yoho, Ryan Pressly

Michael’s Picks:

2025 NL Central Champions: Chicago Cubs

I don’t think I hated a trade in recent history – including many an ill-fated Pirates transaction – than I did when the Cubs managed to bring Kyle Tucker over from Houston this offseason. The Cubs ranked 12th in runs scored last season but 21st in home runs. Bringing in a legit power threat who also happens to be a five-tool player to essentially replace the on-again, off-again Cody Bellinger has HUGE upside for Chicago. Additionally, shoring up the bullpen with Ryan Pressly with Porter Hodge as a closer-in-waiting can seriously shorten games. A bounce-back season from Justin Steele, another step forward for Shota Imanaga and more pieces pushing this team over the top, I hate to say it but I think Cubbies Blue will take the Central crown in 2025.

NL Central Awards 

Most Valuable Player: Elly da la Cruz

Cy Young: Paul Skenes

Rookie of the Year: Matt Shaw

Most Improved: Alex Burleson

Comeback Player: Jack Suwinski

Fireman of the Year: Ryan Helsley

Corey and I might have a good amount of overlap but differing out of the box on MVP. I was strongly in the anti-Elly camp last year, not believing in his ability to produce given his strikeout issues but after a season where he slugged 25 home runs while stealing 67 bases in his age-22 campaign, it’s hard to bet against this guy. He’s also playing above-average defense at a critical position. Oh, and he has been on a TEAR this spring, slashing .409/.519/.773 over 54 plate appearances this spring with 4 home runs and 6 stolen bases. Dude could have a 40-40 campaign.

On the Cy Young front, ditto to what Corey said. Skenes is a unicorn and let’s just thank the Gods of baseball that he is going to wear black and gold for the foreseeable future.

I also picked Shaw for Rookie of the Year. Bubba likely contends for this depending on when he arrives in the show but Shaw has the benefit of being here already and has some flashy tools after flying through the Cubs minor league system. The 13th overall pick in 2023 posted a .284/.379/.488 triple slash over 523 between AA and AAA last season with 21 home runs and 31 steals.

Most Improved and Comeback Player have some similarities. One is a guy still looking to prove he can do it and the other is a guy looking to show that he can do it again. Burleson hasn’t been able to really find his groove with St. Louis. After posting below-average wRC+ his first full season in MLB, Burleson slugged 21 home runs last year with a .734 OPS. I feel like his ceiling is MUCH higher than that and he should be able to focus solely on hitting (split time last season at 1B and OF) now that he is the Cardinals DH.

Suwinski had about as bad a 2024 as was humanly possible. After slugging 45 home runs over his first two seasons and showing some steps forward over that span, Suwinski regressed hard batting .182 and posting a .588 OPS over 277 plate appearances, getting optioned to Indy partway through the season and continuing to struggle there. Despite that, Jack has had a VERY strong spring (1.022 OPS and 7 extra base hits over 45 plate appearances) and looks poised to rebound and provide some much-needed pop to this Pirates lineup.

Helsley was one of my reliever picks from last year and the dude just has great stuff, leading MLB in saves in 2024 with a 2.04 ERA over a career-high 66.1 innings. I don’t think he repeats that level of success but I think he has a good chance to still be the best in the division at least this year.

All NL Central First Team 

C: William Contreras

1B: Willson Conteras

2B: Brendon Donovan

SS: Elly de La Cruz

3B: Matt Shaw

OF: Kyle Tucker

OF: Bryan Reynolds

OF: Jackson Chourio

DH: Alec Burleson

SP: Paul Skenes, Shota Imanaga, Hunter Greene, Sonny Gray, Freddy Peralta

RP: Ryan Helsley, Ryan Pressly, Porter Hodge

All NL Central Second Team 

C: Joey Bart

1B: Rhys Hoskins

2B: Nick Gonzales

SS: Joey Ortiz

3B: Gavin Lux

OF: Lars Nootbaar

OF: Oneil Cruz

OF: Ian Happ

DH/UT: Seiya Suzuki

SP: Justin Steele, Bubba Chandler, Mitch Keller, Brandon Woodruff, Tink Hence

RP: Trevor Megill, Dennis Santana, Graham Ashcraft

Did we name someone you think is about to go off in 2025 or maybe a few names who you think are guaranteed to be duds?

Let us know your thoughts as we head into another long year of baseball.